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1 VISION SEPTEMBER 2011 EDITOR: VIC HOWARD DAN YARGER/ 62 MONA ERNIE MCKINNEY/ 64 CONVERT GAIL KEENAN/ 64 COUPE JOHN D ANGERIO/ 65 MONZA JOHN MILLER/ 63 CONVERT MEL JACKSON/ PAUL GREEN/ 66 CORSA CONVERT VIC/ 66 S MONZA AND CORSA CONVERT EDITORS NOTE: ALL THE ABOVE MEMBERS HAD THEIR CORVAIRS AT THE JULY MEETING AND I WAS ABLE TO TAKE THEIR PICTURES. PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH A PHOTO OF YOU AND YOUR CAR VIA AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO PUT IT IN THE NEWSLETTER. VEGAS VAIRS CHAPTER 891 OF CORSA MEETS THE 2ND WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH 7:00 P.M. DENNY S RESTAURANT 3081 S. MARYLAND PARKWAY LAS VEGAS, NV COME EARLY TO MEET AND GREET!! MEMBERSHIP DUES ARE $20 DUE BY FEBRUARY 1ST OF EACH YEAR.THEY MAY BE PAID AT THE MONTHLY MEETING OR MAILED TO: VEGAS VAIRS P.O. BOX LAS VEGAS, NV OFFICERS PAUL BERNARDO, PRESIDENT MEL JACKSON, VICE PRESIDENT G.HARRY RANSOM, SECRETARY INGRID HOWARD, TREASURER ADVERTISING: FREE TO CLUB MEMBERS, $25 PER YR. FOR BUSINESSES AND NON MEMBERS VEGAS VAIRS VISION ARE ALWAYS WELCOME!!!! If you wish to submit articles, ads, photos, etc. your editor at : vichoward@frontiernet.net or send it to me at: 5574 TABLEAU FORT MOHAVE, AZ
2 VEGAS VAIRS MEMBERSHIP ROSTER BERNARDO PAUL & VICKI P.O. BOX 658 LOGANDALE NV BOEHM BOB & MARCIA MESA VIEW LAS VEGAS NV BOULDER BRITT KEVIN & MARY CATS EYE DR CITY NV BURK STEVE MALIBU DRIVE IDAHO FALLS ID BOULDER CAMPBELL CHRISTY L `629 Ave. M CITY NV CHARASKA JOHN WEENAP DR. LAS VEGAS NV CORNWELL JACK AND JANET jaxandjan@yahoo.com th St. So. HAWLEY MN D'ANGERIO JOHN gennamarie@cox.net BETTY LANE LAS VEGAS NV STEWART AVE DUNNING JERRY gdunning1@cox.net cel SPACE 38 LAS VEGAS NV GREEN PAUL lea@rebar1.net CEL N. RACETRACK RD. HENDERSON NV HELT BOB & DELORES bobhelt@aol.com PEARL HARBOR DR LAS VEGAS NV HOWARD VIC & INGRID vichoward@frontiernet.net TABLEAU FT. MOHAVE AZ cel JACKSON MELVIN C. fourbigmel@yahoo.co COLT DRIVE HENDERSON NV KEENAN GAIL draagons-rreal@embarqmail.com CALLE MIRADOR LAS VEGAS NV KETTLE BOB (SPOUSE TO GAIL KEENAN) KATZ MARTY & BERTHA martykatz53@yahoo.com SIERRA BROOK CT. LAS VEGAS nv LAGER WILLIAM CLIFFWOOD DR. HENDERSON NV LEGACY ISLAND MAGOWAN KELLY yukonred@aol.com CR. HENDERSON NV MCKINNEY ERNEST AIDRIE PLACE LAS VEGAS NV MILLER JOHN NONE W. ARBY AVE LAS VEGAS NV REGAL ROBIN O'SHEA JACK joc99@cox.net WAY` LAS VEGAS NV RANSOM G. HARRY ghr500@embarqmail.com GLENARDEN DR. LAS VEGAS NV TRIPLE CROWN SCHEINDT RUDY & CHAR rudychar@wirelessbeehive.com WAY GRANTSVILLE UT SIBERT ARLON & SUZAN arsibert@cox.net W. ALFRED LAS VEGAS NV STONER HOWARD withers16@aol.com CAMINO VERDE LAS VEGAS NV AVENEDA WARD DAN & CANDACE drawnad@embarqmail.com SANDIA LAS VEGAS NV WENTWORTH SALLIE & STEVE sastum@embarqmail.com P O BOX LAS VEGAS NV GREY HUNTER NO. LAS MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 10, 2011 VEGAS VAIRS MEETING YARGER DAN danyarger@yahoo.com DRIVE VEGAS NV ZALE JAMES & NORA jrzale@webtv.net WILLOUGHBY AVE LAS VEGAS NV ========================================================= HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THESE MEMBERS: KELLY MCGOWAN THERE WERE NO OFFICERS AT THE MEETING SO MINUTES WERE NOT TAKEN. 2
3 CORVAIR VALVE ROCKER RATIOS By Bob Helt THE CORVAIR LITERATURE You may have noticed that various Corvair documents list two different valve rocker ratios as being in production. Both a ratio of 1.5:1 and 1.57:1 are stated in various documents. Often the 164 CID 95 hp engine is listed as having a 1.5:1 ratio while the other 164 CID engines use a 1.57:1 ratio. The Shop Manuals for all years show just a 1.5:1 ratio being used. Other documents show the 1966 and later engines being credited with a 1.57:1 ratio while the 1965 and earlier engines got a 1.5:1 ratio. Yet the Parts Manuals only show one rocker for replacement. So what is going on? A CORVAIR ENGINEER INVESTIGATES Well known and respected Chevrolet/Corvair engineer, Bob Kirkman, decided to investigate this apparent discrepancy and determine the real situation. As a matter of his qualifications, Bob is a knowledgeable Corvair engineer and is the author of the comprehensive listing and analysis of all the different Corvair cylinder heads Chevrolet documented in their drawing structure. This detailed analysis was published in both the Sept CORSA Communiqué and the CORSA Technical Guide Supplement. WHAT BOB FOUND All Corvair camshaft drawings 1960 thru 1969 except one, reference the valve rockers as having a ratio of 1.57:1. The one exception was the 1962 drawing (long before production was planned) for the 164 CID 95 hp camshaft, , that apparently mis-stated the rocker ratio as 1.50 instead of This error was corrected later, but apparently it was picked up by the tech writers and promulgated throughout much of the subsequent Corvair literature. All other Corvair camshaft drawings for all cams list the rocker ratio as 1.57:1. So Bob concluded the following: No physical changes [to the rocker ratio] were made in any year. All years list [the] 1.57 ratio. The only reference to a ratio of 1.50:1 is on the 95 hp cam drawing in a time period before the part appeared on production cars off the line. It is very likely that someone finally noted a mistake on the drawing and fixed it. Although [all of these Corvair] cams have slightly varying base circles and lifts, they all end up with a reference to 1.57:1. THE FINAL WORD So now we know that all Corvair engines for all years used the design rocker ratio of 1.57:1. ADJUSTING THE VALVE ROCKERS The threads on the rocker studs are 3/8-24, so each turn of the adjustment nut moves the rocker ballpivot up or down by inches. However, when adjusting the rockers, the valves stay stationary (i.e., closed when adjusting a non-running engine) so the rocker pivots at the valve tip. This causes the internal piston in the lifter to reposition via the pushrod. Thus, the movement ratio is now 5:3 or at the lifter. This now produces inches (call it 0.070") of internal piston movement in the lifter for each turn of the adjustment nut. Since most original Corvair lifters allow a range of internal piston movement of about 0.130" and most currently available replacement lifters also allow a movement range of about 0.140", this will provide about a full two turns of the adjustment nut to cover the allowable lifter range. Thus, setting the adjustment at anywhere from ¼ turn-to one full turn inward from zero lash will allow a safe and proper setting. 3
4 DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR CORVAIR WAS MADE? Credit for the assembly plant information goes to Dave Newell. A well known Corvair Historian. (PROVIDED BY JACK O SHEA) Corvair Production (Model years) All locations are cars only, except as noted Willow Run, MI Kansas City, MO Oakland, CA Van Nuys, CA 1963, 1965 & 1966 St Louis, MO (FCs) Flint, MI (FCs) Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Mexico City, Mexico (CKD) Caracas, Venezuela (CKD) Bienne, Switzerland (CKD) Antwerp, Belgium (CKD) Copenhagen, Denmark Port Elizabeth, South Africa (All 1960 CKD models) Willow Run, Kansas City, Oakland and Van Nuys were Chevrolet assembly plants with adjacent Fisher Body plants. St Louis and Flint were Chevrolet truck plants, although Chevy had full-size car plants in both cities and in St Louis the plants were adjacent. Oshawa was operated solely by GM of Canada Ltd. The CKD plants were operated by GM Overseas Operations (GMOO). CKD stands for Completely Knocked Down in GMspeak. CKD plants were not full up assembly plants, but rather finished the assembly of partially built Corvairs. Reprinted from the July, 2011 Airhorn, the newsletter of the Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts Oil Filter Update by JR Read At the 6/15/11 CCE meeting I did a brief presentation-an update on what is going on with available oil filters for our Corvairs. Some of you will remember that I did a session on filters five or so years ago. It [sic] that time, I brought in a fixture with a sawed off the [sic] edge of a Corvair filter housing. This made it possible to see the contact area between the inner, smaller diameter filter seal and the housing. At that time, most filter manufacturers had gone to placing a U shaped gasket around the outer edge of their filters. The problem with that style was (is) that the inner seal does not make proper contact with the housing and allows at least some oil (maybe most? - don't know) to pass over the top end of the filter without actually passing through the filtration medium. (While I tested many filters 5 years ago, I did not test every possible brand. The only filter with the U gasket around the top which did not present a problem at that time was the orange Baldwin filter. That part number is B-4. If you crank down on the filter bolt hard (something more than the 20 foot pounds listed in the chassis/shop manual) in an effort to close the gap between the housing and the inner seal of the filter, you run a strong risk of splitting the outer U gasket and/or pulling the top of the filter loose from the canister portion. Now for the good news. Dom Perino contacted the folks at Purolator and they have wisely decided to go back to the style that we were all used to in the AC Delco PF4 filter. The part number for the Purolator Filter is L20014 and the box has the word Classic on it. That is still the same part number that they were using before, so if would be a good idea to inspect the actual filter in the "Classic" box before you make a purchase. Some neat things about the new Purolator filter: 1 -Inner and outer seals are like those on a PF4 2 -Plain white in color with NO logo on it 3- Made in USA 4 -Price is around $6.00 I'm now working part time at Advance Auto Parts on Roosevelt Road just a block West of Route 53 in Glen Ellyn, IL. We will be stocking these filters at that store. So, if you are in dire need of a filter-for whatever reason-know that you could get one there by just walking in. Of course, it never hurts to call ahead just to be sure. 4
5 WHAT S HAPPENIING? The 2011 Kingman Air & Auto show will be held this year on October 8-9. There will be a wonderful lineup of aircraft and performers as well as an expanded ground show. There will be a show and shine including street rods, extreme offroad vehicles, motorcycles and military ground vehicles. The Air & Auto Show web page is now up and ready for purchasing Collector Car Show Tickets for the show and shine. This will be a great opportunity to show off your ride and sit on the tarmac and watch a great Air Show. This will not be a judged Auto Show event but each car will receive a commemorative Air & Auto show 2011 Dash Plaque. The entry fee for Vehicle and 2 people for 2 days is discounted to $25.00 and can only be purchased on line or by Advance Purchase. There will be no ticket sales at the gate for collector cars. There are a limited number of vehicles that can enter the Air Field so we would like to encourage early registration. We hope as many car owners as possible will return the second day so the people each day will have a chance to view these beautiful vehicles. 5
6 MORE, WHAT S HAPPENING 34th ANNUAL GREAT WESTERN FAN BELT TOSS & SWAP MEET (GWFBT&SM) OCTOBER 21, 22, & 23, 2011Palm Springs, CALIFORNIA GO TO THIS WEBSITE TO GET INFORMATION AND REGISTRATION FORM Las Vegas Car Show Registration Form for the Rememberance Car Event CAR SHOW VEHICLE ENTRY FEE: $40.00 T-SHIRT SIZE S_M_L_XL_2XL_3XL_4XL Make checks payable to: 911 Remembrance Las Vegas. Mail entries to: 911 Remembrance Las Vegas P.O. Box Las Vegas, NV
7 (FROM WEST FLORIDA CORVAIRS THE CHRONIC CORVAIR ) 201 (Hemming s Motor News April 7
8 BOOKS NOW AVAILABLE --THE CLASSIC CORVAIR. A technical maintenance and upgrade manual. 330 pages. $35+$7 S&H. --CORVAIR SECRETS. Little known design and operational insights. 170 pages. $25+$6 S&H. --HOW TO IDENTIFY AND REBUILD CORVAIR ROCHESTER CARBURETORS. Comprehensive carburetor information. 110 pages. $20+$5 S&H. --HOW TO IDENTIFY AND REBUILD CORVAIR CARTER YH CARBURETORS. Comprehensive carburetor information. 90 pages. $25+$5 S&H. If interested in purchasing any of these books, please call me at for delivery to one of the VV club meetings for no S&H charges Check or money order (sorry no Paypal) to: Bob Helt 3016 Pearl Harbor Dr. Las Vegas, NV WELCOME TO Parts and rebuilding services in the Heartland. Hook up your ride with high quality parts from Rafee Corvair! Call us at , or cell. We are a full-time parts and service shop for your Vair and we will be glad to answer any questions you might have about your ride. rafee@rafeecorvair.com. Nous parlons Francais & Espanol. We carry a large selection of new and used parts, and some NOS. We got everything to get your ride back on the road where it belongs! We have thousands of gaskets, bearings, weatherstrips, mirrors and chrome, suspension parts, engine parts, disc brakes, custom wheels, and many more. You can view our work on the website, and you can order online, by phone, by or via Facebook/Rafee Corvair! Special promo: 7 mm sparkplug wires $26.55 in 3 colors. cards. Discounts to clubs.looking forward to doing business with y all! Prices subject to change. Paypal, money orders and credit Happy to be at your service! 8
9 FOR SALE ITEMS: I recently purchased some Corvair parts from a fellow in Fort Mohave that used to build sandrails and power them with 140 hp Corvair engines. Unfortunately, there was only one engine left that was in the stack of parts. There were several pieces of engine top sheet metal (aka turkey roaster) that I had powder coated and am offering for sale. two are for 140 engines and one is for a 110 engine. I m asking $55 each. Other misc pieces are also available, Here are photos of the parts: VIC HOWARD: PHONE vichoward@frontiernet.n JERRY DUNNING HAS PUT HIS TWO CORVAIRS UP FOR SALE: 1964 CONVERTIBLE 1965 MONZA COUPE 110hp, A/T, rebuilt engine, many 14Ohp, 4 spd., like new inside and out. new parts and more. Asking $11,500 OBO Asking $11,500 OBO CALL JERRY FOR MORE INFORMATION OR IF INTERESTED AT OR gdunning1@cox.net 9
10 FROM THE EDITOR: WHAT IS EXPECTED OF OUR MEMBERS? Write an article for the newsletter. Tell us how you got interested in the Corvair. Tell us about an experience you had with your Corvair. Tell us about some Tech Tip that you discovered while working on your Corvair. Don t worry about grammar and misspelled words. I will edit your article for you. Send your article to Vic Howard 5574 Tableau, Fort Mohave, Az or to : vichoward@frontiernet.net Clark s Corvair Parts Clark s has been your supplier for quality repros for the past 37 years. This year, we expect to reproduce even more parts for your Corvair. See the Supplement for the following: Vario us N ew FC Item s 1964 Trim Turbo parts stainless gas tan k senders Late m o d el steering co lum n parts 650 Page Catalog USA - $6 CANADA - $9.95 Most Other Countries - $12.95 Clark s Corvair Parts 400 Mohawk Trail, Shelburne Falls, MA FAX: clarks@corvair.com 10
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