SJ Swedish Coach Numbering - Discussion By Phil Spiegelhalter:

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1 SJ Swedish Coach Numbering - Discussion By Phil Spiegelhalter: Note by editor Philip first published this List on the Website: with the hope that members will be able to add or clarify the different classification of the coaches. So if you can help perhaps a definite list of the earlier coaches can be produced. Replies to Philip or the editor. This is probably another one for the patience of my local guru Adrian! Swedish Loco numbering seems to re-use old numbers, and they do not readily identify classes or sub types as per the UK / Germany. Coach classification appears to be almost equally 'random' - but in general the length identifies the age/design. 23.5m 24.1m 24.6m However 1940s 1960s 1960s (as 1930's/40's Heljan/NMJ) [1960's as modeled by NMJ] and [1980's Roco] B6 = 21.9m, F5/F6 = 16.0m, WL1 = 24.5m [no known models], and a few other exceptions. Numbering is in date order, not precisely, so you can guess date of order, rather than the delivery date and this applies to locos as well as coaches; Private operators may reuse old numbers, but this was not the general practice of SJ. Sub types are identified, for example, the Rc is split into Rc1-Rc7 etc. Consulting my Svenska Person-och Motorvagnar 1999 by Lennart Nilsson [Svenska Jarnvagsklubben] - an excellent source of picture/interior and tech details. [It does not include the UIC AB8K of earlier discussion - my models have just arrived and the quoted length is 23.5m for SJ4587. The window spacing is not squashed and 10 compartments but it should have only 9. The AB8K does appear in Svenska Personvagnar 1982, 23.5m [as per 1930s/1940s, but also as other 1950s designs]. I have no problem with the classification letters used, but understanding the sequence, or apparent contradiction of numerical sequence of the numerical suffix, which follows, means I am always puzzled by them. Writing this out with dates and lengths has helped. It has been changed several times 'C' was third class, it is now Couchette; 'A' was sleeper, it is now first class; etc] For completeness: [first letter(s] information from the book above [1999 data] some SUFFIX letters:,,

2 Variants A, B, C F = parcels included N hired to NSB K of 'International train interest': FOR USE TO DENMARK via Ferry at time Helsingor-Kopenhamm, -Rodby F profile, voltage, anchorage points S kiosk T Vacuum/retention toilet First Class Coaches A 1st Class Coaches A2 (K) m x65made inc A12K A22 A23. Some converted to B12 (2nd class, but still with 2+1 seating!) A m x35 built (rebuilt 1970s to a slightly different appearance, same body-shape but lower windows; some with (1960s) ribbed effect!) m x24 built 7=1930s, 17=1940s A5 A m x60 built inc A7F A7FA A7M. Some also rebuilt as A11 for X2000-relief train (dark blue, to operate with 180km/h Rc7 in theory)! Composite First/Second Coaches AB AB3(K) AB 1st / 2nd Coaches 24.1m x35 built 24.1m x78 built inc AB3K AS4KT braintrain smokefree version of AB3 x1 built AB m x39 built 32=1930s, 7 built 1940s SJ AB at Ostersund in 1989

3 SJ B at Stockholm in 2008 B Second Class Coaches B 2nd class Coaches B m x100 built inc B1, B1N, B1K, B1KN, B1KT B m x45 built inc B2, B2F, B2FA B m x10 built IBAB B3, B3A B m x115 built inc B5, B5B, B5K, B5N = 1 conductor + 4 pass compartments (5 compartments at first; some 1+4; some 3+2=(2 small family rooms) B m x171 built inc B6F, B6G suburban coach B m x171 built inc B7, B7F, B7FA B7M Some also rebuilt as B11 for X2000-relief train! B8 1st m x226 built 98=1930s, 28=1940s, many 1940s modified to B15 B8 2nd m x38 built 'FamilyB7': play area replaces 4sets of seats B m x38 built InterRegio version B13(K) m x3 built inc B13,B13B, & B1B Khandicappe 2cmpt, open salon modified from AB3 B m x1 built

4 IBAB BC at Ulriksfors in 2004 BC 2nd class seating + Couchette BC Second Class Seating Couchette BC m x13 built BC m x76 built Liggvagn inc BC2, BC2K BC m x76 built IBAB variant of BC2 BC m x3 built Liggvagn BF Seating and Freight Parcels Resgods/express Resgods SJ F24KR at Malmo in 1953 BF/F Seating and Freight (parcels resgods/express resgods) BF1 BF2 BFS m x42 built m x21 built m x31 built InterRegio BSF9,BSF9F /cont...

5 F24K F m SJ Express gods built (35=F5, then F33; 10=F6K F24K one is now S17 conversion to Train Heatingvan!) F52(K) FV m x 285 built originally F5-LÅ, as modeled by Heljan) 23.5m x 24 built as SJ Express D Post Coaches D m D m DV30 DV30F m x31 built postwagn - DF46 for a while! x20 built postwagn - DF48 for a while! x58 built 2 axle box van rebuilt from 'Gbs' van M Manouvering [Driving Control Coaches] The 'x' suffix usually indicates driving controls, but again this has changed over the years! The 'U' prefix indicates a trailer within a unit (see later). UA2X x14 built X2000 Driving Control Traller 1st UB2X x29 built X2000 Driving Control Traler 2nd UA7R 5543 at Uppsala in 1993

6 R at Lulea in 1975 R Restaurant / Servering Coaches R m x21 built R m x15 built A 1940s design despite years built! R x15 built or 8? BISTR0 Some also rebuilt as R11 for X2000-relief train! RB1 RB2 RB m x25 built,16 then rebuilt as R m 5 built m 20 built BISTRO WL Wagon Lits Sovvagn Coaches WL m x25 built Sovvagn WL m x37 built Sovvagn 3 per compartment, have doors between pairs of compartments WL m x27 built Sovvagn2 per compartment, with WC/Showers small windows WL5K m 20x built Sovvagn inc WL5 inc WLK5M = bogie change also NSB WL m WX/Shower x23 built Sovvagn 3 per compartment End Corridor No mention here [1999?] of the WL2 modelled by Lima] - see my addition s coaches withdrawn mid-90s, except for 1970s rebuilds (mostly)!

7 SJ WL at Osterund in S Special Coaches S1R Number 3607 rebuilt from A5 as a conference coach S1T Number 5248 delivered in same body as A7/B7, as a conference coach (model by Roco (with wrong interior)) - several others followed eg S23T 1999 x1 built Colour Train from AB3K for stromstad Goteborg Ferry connection S3L m Kings coach U unit part of eg coaches for X2 > X2000 / Lynx etc UA2 x1 built I UA2G x41built UA2GK x13 built 1st Class G=conference coupe K=ferry> Denmark UB2 x6 Built UB2B x8 built UB2B=ticket stamping machine UB2F x42 built US2FK x25 built with 72 not 76 seats UBS2 x6 built UBS2B x8 built UBS2FK x7 built as Kiosk/Servering URB2 x13 built URB2G x9 built URB2K x2 built as Buffet

8 V 2-axle (otherwise bogie assumed) Currently, yes; A2 has bogies, FV1 doesn't. However, earlier type codes were for example, Ao2 with bogies, F5 without! X Electric Multiple Unites X Electric eg X10 the'x' is for electric units, X1 Stockholm Localtrafik EMU (others not listed here for space and time reaons) X2 Power Car and UA2 UA2G UA2GK UB2 UB2B UB2F UB2F US2K Y Diesel Units Y Diesel eg Y2 Y6/7 Special Coaches: S Cinema Bistro at Falkoping in 2003 S1 Conference coach S2 Bistro/Restaurant coaches+ S3 King's Coach S4 conductors coach S5 Disco bar coach S6 from 60's S7 from resgods S8 S9 S10 Culture S11 Bio Cinema ex AB3 coaches S12 Bio Cinema ex R4 coaches S.49