Tiger Tales. SEGTOA Summer Picnic Red Top Mtn. State Park August 9, am 3pm. Southeastern GTO Association

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1 Tiger Tales Southeastern GTO Association...a chapter of the GTO Association of America Check Out SEGTOA on FACEBOOK August 2014 Volume 28, Issue 8 Celebrating our 28th Year! Inside this issue: Next Meeting 1 President s Message Officers & Board SEGTOA Picnic Directions GTOAA Convention Recap September Club Event October Club Event 9 Tech Tips 11 Atlanta Area Cruise- Ins & Other Events Club Gear & Upcoming Meetings Parts & Services Info 18 SEGTOA Classifieds 19 Technical Advisory Panel 22 UPDATE!!!! See page (10) for the latest from Mike Walling on the October Tail of the Dragon overnighter! The host hotel is SOLD OUT. Alternates are neaby. SEGTOA Summer Picnic Red Top Mtn. State Park August 9, am 3pm

2 2014 Officers & Board Members President John Link Secretary Lee Lamb Treasurer Mike Walling Membership Kim Fowler Newsletter Danny Finkelstein Merchandising Ed Downing Meetings Mike Walling Webmaster David Trees Board Members Bob Immekus Ed Bellair President s Message I was unable to attend the Nationals, but Mike Walling and Bob Immekus represented us well at the Convention. Congratulations to our officers for the awards SEGTOA won at the Convention. Danny Finklestein and SEGTOA won another award for our Tiger Tales Newsletter. The Trees won another award for our Web Site and Social Media. SEGTOA also won a Silver Award for our GTOAA membership participation. Not bad guys!!! Thanks for all the recruiting that s been done this year as well. Nice to see our many new members. SEGTOA had 4 cars at the Convention. The Askews brought (3) 64 GTOs!! They won two Silvers and a Gold. Congrats!!!!! Mike Walling won a Gold for his 67 in the Modified Class (a well deserved award for all of Mike s hard work). We re having a Board Meeting, as well as a regular meeting at the August Picnic. One of the items we need to discuss at the meeting, is officers for the upcoming year. If you have some computer skills, we (Desperately) need to fill the Officer and Board postions noted below. As you can see by the number of car cruise notices in this month s newsletter there is quite a bit going on this summer. One of these, the Holy Smoke BBQ & Car Show, is being run by club member Bo Dunn. Please consider attending this show to support his efforts. Hope to see all of you at the August Meeting / Picnic. Mike Walling has a great spot reserved for us at Red Top Mountain. Have a great summer and Happy Motoring! John Link SEGTOA Officers & Board 2015 With the summer Picnic upon us it s time again to start thinking about, discussing, nominating, and/or voluteering to participate in the growth of our chapter. Announcements of new Officers and Board Members will be made at the December Holiday Party. For 2015 the positions below will be available. President Treasurer Newsletter Meetings Board Members Please consider your important contributions to making 2015 and beyond a success. WELCOME NEW MEMBERS! Charlie Brown Eatonton, GA 1966 Bonneville 2

3 SEGTOA Annual Picnic August 9, 2014 Please join us for annual picnic from 11 AM to 4 PM at Red Top Mountain State Park again this year at Shelter #7. Below is a map of the park. We are at the end of Red Top Beach Road. From I-75 north of Atlanta, take exit # 285 to the right, east. Park entrance will be on your left. Bring the family. All of them! We will be having the usual cook out lunch catered by Williamson Brothers again plus hot dogs. The cost is covered by the club. Entrance to the park is $5 per car. So put it on your calendar and reply with your attendance. All are welcome! Replay with number attending to Mike Walling mwalling@leitransportation.com Or call SEGTOA 3

4 GTOAA CONVENTION Pittsburgh, PA July 1-5, 2014 SEGTOA was well represented at the awards cerermony! Mike and Tracy Walling won Gold for Mike s 1967 Modified. Doug and Tim Askew were there and Doug won Silver for two of his cars, black 64's one for stock and one for modified. Tim Askew won Gold for his Burgundy 64 Modified. Tom Stutzman, a POCI member from Georgia, also attended. That makes 5 GTOs from Georgia at the Convention. Pam and Bob Immekus also attended. Bob lended his considerable expertise to judging (again!). Bob Immekus (left) hard at work. Tell It To The Judge! Mike Walling s 1967 Modified 4

5 GTOAA CONVENTION Pittsburgh, PA July 1-5, 2014 Doug Askew s 1964 GTOs; Modified (left) and Stock (right) Tom Stutzman s (POCI member) 1968 (left) and 1970 (right) 5

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8 September Club Event: Hubcaps & Marietta Street Fest We have aranged with the event organizers to have our own parking area including our club tent. However, advance notice is required so we can provide a head count. For those planning to attend please contact Meetings VP Mike Wallin at Mike Walling mwalling@leitransportation.com 8

9 CLUB EVENT: October 11-12, 2014 Tail of the Dragon Cruise/Overnighter October is when the leaves are changing, what better time to go on a cruise through the Smokie Mountains? Northeast of Atlanta, on the TN/NC line, there is what s called the Tail of the Dragon. It is a section of Hwy 129 that spans 11 miles and has 318 curves/turns. Yes 318. It has more turns in an 11 mile span than any other highway in the US so they say. This too is part of a 120 mile loop in TN/NC that includes the Cherohala Skyway drive. On this loop is the Fontana Village Resort. We have made arangments at Fontana Village and have a block of rooms reserved. Room charge is $115 ($145/night including taxes). To reserve your room, please call the resort directly. After making reservations, please inform Mike Walling so we can get a head count and plan for lunch/dinner reservations, etc. A tentative schedule for the cruise/overnighter is below: Take 575 north to 76 to 74 to 129. We arrive in Robbinsville NC around 11:30 AM. Each lunch at Lynn s Place. Highly recommended. Get gas too. Drive the southern, western, and northern leg of the 120 mile loop (About 100 miles). Scenic casual afternoon drive through the Smokies with elevations over 5,000 feet. Arrive at the Fontana Village around 4-4:30 PM. Check in to our rooms. Dinner/desert and Happy hour at 6 PM. Sunday AM Breakfast Sunday mid-morning, leave and drive the last 25 miles of the loop and then head home. Fontana Village Resort 300 Woods Place Fontana Dam, NC Reservations Contact for our club stay is Teresa Brown More info to follow in next month s Tiger Tales. For additional questions contact our Meetings VP Mike Walling mwalling@leitransportation.com Click on the picture to launch a video from Autoblog.com about driving the Tail of the Dragon 9

10 CLUB EVENT: October 11-12, 2014 Tail of the Dragon Cruise/Overnighter UPDATE!!! As of today our primary hotel is SOLD OUT of rooms. 3 of us have secured rooms for the night of the 11 th at the Fontana Village Inn. There are other hotels in the area and the closest ones are listed below. October is the prime month with the changing of the leaves. Please take the time to decide to join us and make a room reservation this week at one of the altenate hotels. You will have to call each hotel to determine what their cancellation fees are which I believe was the main reason more of you guys did not commit this early. Microtel Inn (20 miles away) 111 Rodney Orr Bypass. Robbinsville NC Sleep Inn (32 miles away) 500 Veterans Blvd. Bryson City NC Microtel Inn (33 miles away) 82 Songbird Forest Road. Bryson City NC Quality Inn (40 miles away) 138 country Hearth Inn Drive. Andrews NC

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12 Tech tips #1 Price vs. Cost John Link I ve had problems with the fuel pump in my 69 Riviera for the past few years. I ve had to install 3 fuel pumps in the last 2 years. As some of you know, 1969 was the first year for an in-tank electric fuel pump for Buick. There s nothing wrong with 12 volt electric fuel pumps, most of today s cars have in-tank electric fuel pumps (low cost, light weight, etc.). Buick was smart enough to make replacing the pump simple by having an access panel in the trunk. I ve replaced my pump so often I feel I could do it with my eyes closed. But why I have I had fuel pumps going out regularly? I replace the fuel strainer sock with each new pump (old ones were clean). I ve replaced my in-line fuel filters even though they flowed properly. I ve checked the pumps after removal (applied 12v) and they do not turn or turn very slowly (too slow to pump fuel). I know Classic car fuel tanks can be a problem so I ve even cut a pump open to see if there s any debris in the pump. They were clean. I m able use an E2485 fuel pump (a direct fit replacement pump). These pumps are used in hundreds of today s vehicles. I was blaming the manufacturer for a poor quality product. Chinese Crap, I thought!! But I compared pumps / talked with Technical Services at Airtex Products (75 yrs in the fuel pump business) and guess what, I had ordered what I thought was an Airtex pump on-line but found that the Company I ordered from in Miami isn t an Airtex Distributor. I also found that another pump I had recently received had a 2005 date on it!! (I always keep one in the trunk). I normally use Orielly s Auto Parts and they recently changed to Precision for their pumps. But the one I got last from them had Airtex stamped on it. Huh????? So what s happening?? Are some on-line dealers advertising Airtex Fuel Pumps and selling something else (Cheaply made)? Are dealers buying OLD-OLD stock (say 2005) and selling as new?? I don t know, but I can assume that all of that is being done by someone. I have purchased on-line to save a buck (a penny saved is a penny earned) but we all have to be aware of WHAT AND FROM WHOM we re purchasing. Would I have had the fuel pump problems noted if I d have known who makes a quality pump and made sure I got that pump?? I don t know but I think so. When I replace steering components (tie rod ends, ball joints), I won t use the store brand. I always specify a brand name like Moog. Why, because it s a safety issue! Brake and steering are definitely safety items. Shouldn t we also specify a known quality brand when we re buying fuel components. Having the engine starve for fuel on the interstate is definitely a safety issue. Yes, I know that even the big brand names have products manufactured in China but they have to be in charge of quality control. I m going to be a lot more conscious of the MANUFACTURER and the RETAILER in the future. The true cost of an item is not just what you pay for the item but the service it gives you and the cost to replace the item when it fails. How much have the fuel pumps I ve installed cost me in Frustration, Labor, and Money? Way too much!!!! 12

13 Local Atlanta Area Cruise-ins (If you attend a cruise-in in your area that is not included here, please send me a notice and it will be added to the list ed.) 1st FRIDAYS: 4 PM Downtown Canton 1st SATURDAYS: 9-11AM Piedmont Baptist Ch Piedmont-btwn Bells Ferry & Canton Rd 3PM Downtown Cartersville at Train Station - Museum Drive off Main Street ( Exit I-75 at Rte 113 Cartersville is Main Street) 1st SUNDAYS: 8-10AM Marietta LA Fitness 4905 Alabama Road (aka Hwy 92) near Sandy Plains (Road Runners Cruise-in) 8 AM Alpharetta Caffeine & Octane Deerfield Pkwy off Windward Pkwy 2nd FRIDAYS: Woodstock Bojangles Hwy 92 and Trickum Road 2nd SATURDAYS: 8-Noon Daddys Country Kitchen 4545 S Main Acworth 4PM Marietta - Wendys and BB&T Bank. Corner of Dallas Highway and Barrett Prkwy 2nd SUNDAYS: 8-11Am Abundant Grounds Coffee Kennesaw Due West at Stilesboro 3rd Saturdays: 3PM Canton Riverstone Plaza, (Riverstone exit off of I-575) 3-6PM Abundant Grounds Coffee Kennesaw Due West at Stilesboro 4PM Villa Rica Hwy 61 Mill Amphitheater 4th Saturdays: 8-Noon Bojangles 92 and Trickum 4 PM Downtown Dallas Main Street off Highway 61 5th Saturdays: 3PM Downtown Acworth (Main Street ) (Except March 2014, held on 4th Saturday March 22nd) 3PM Powder Springs Antique Mall- New Macland Rd (South of Macland Rd) Note: New Macland = Lost Mountain = Mars Hill, same road, different names 13

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15 2014 Carmel, IN ARTMOBILIA Saturday, August 23rd SEGTOA has been invited to the 8th Annual Carmel Automobilia where the 50th Anniversary of the GTO will be celebrated with a special class for all GTOs. For those looking for an end of summer road trip see the information below. The 8 th annual 2014 Carmel Artomobilia is scheduled on Saturday, August 23rd from 11:00 AM to 5:00 PM. The show will once again be held in the historic Arts and Design District in Carmel (Indianapolis), Indiana, which provides a great venue to host the event. The goal of Artomobilia is to showcase classic and performance cars, attract local and regional automotive-related businesses and artists, and to provide a fun day for the car show participants, event volunteers, and families. The cars that participate in the Carmel Artomobilia range from Ford Model A s to Ferraris, American and European classic and sports cars (1925 to current), Indiana Built Classics ( ), super cars, race cars, and muscle cars. Each year s event attracts different, unique, and historically significant automobiles to help make Artomobilia one of Indiana s premier car shows! The Pontiac GTO will be featured in a special class this year to celebrate GTO s 50 th anniversary. Our goal for this class is to have cars representing all generations of the GTO from , and We could use your club s help to find GTOs from this period (restored or in well-maintained original condition). You can visit the website links below for further details and information. Please me back or call me on my cell phone if you have any questions. I hope to see the Southeastern GTO Association at the 2014 Carmel Artomobilia! Best Regards, David Renshaw dlrenshaw@iquest.net Cell: Artomobilia Quick Facts & Information: Name: Carmel Artomobilia - A Celebration of Automotive Art & Design Date: Saturday, August 23, 2014, 11:00am - 5:00pm Location: Carmel Arts & Design District (200 South Range Line Road, Carmel, IN) Established: 2008 Participants: 400+ Collector & Enthusiast Cars Visitors: 15K visitors Featured Marquee for 2014: 50 Years of Mustang Class Registration Fee: $35 Event Cost: Free to public Registration is currently open... Class Registration: Corral Registration: Volunteer Registration: Website: Event Overview: Event Schedule: Photo Gallery: Event Contact: John Leonard, Event Director, , john@carmelartomobilia.com 15

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18 CLUB GEAR Ball Cap Hat One Size Fits All (buckle adjustment at back) $20.00 ea. Polo Shirts w/segtoa Logo $20.00 ea. Men: Gray or White Sizes: S,M,L Women: White Sizes: S,M,L Also Available: BOPC Shirts in Red or Khaki only $7.50 SEGTOA Static Cling window decals available $1 ea. Contact Ed Downing at 2014 UPCOMING CLUB EVENTS Date Event August 9th September 13th October SEGTOA Summer Picnic 11am 3pm Red Top Mountain Park, Pavilion #7 Hubcaps & History Marietta Square Marietta, GA Tail of the Dragon Cruise (Overnighter) November Open December Holiday Party TBD 18

19 GTO Parts & Services Sources Thank You to Jeremiah Riggio, Bob Mohalley, and Jim Racela for tracking down some useful on-line sources for GTO parts and services. Hopefully these will prove useful to you in keeping your GTO looking like a proper time machine! General Info year=1968&f1=vinmatrix Carbs Engines & Heads Radios Wheels CARS IN THE MOVIES Interested in having your car used in movie making? You can place your car in a registry at movietimecars.com. Some sites want you to pay for a listing but this site is free. Show your vehicle at no charge and maybe make a few dollars. You could become famous, like Ed Bellair!!! His car was used in a film recently as was a car owned by a Dixie Buick Club member. Pontiac Tripower Pontiac Literature ( ) Submitted by John Link Complete list of Pontiac/Oakland enging colors from 1930 to 1982 and up. 19

20 SEGTOA CLASSIFIEDS GTO/Lemans Parts 1966 Grill Assy for Lemans/Tempest, Nice cond; $ F Bumper mount lights Lemans/Tempest, housings good lens not so good; $25.00 ea 1966 R & L Front fenders new Dynacorn, painted but never installed; $325 ea, $600 for pair R & L Door shells new Dynacorn painted, never installed $375 ea.. $650 for pair 1966 GTO Tail Panel w/braces new; $ GTO and other A-body full length rocker trim, 2 sets, new; $150 ea pair repo Chevelle deck filler panel, new; $ A body factory AC evaperator box complete; $ A body AC blower box complete; $ Lemans r&l tail light assy's pr driver quality chrome; $ BOP vinyl top trim, 2 sets; $65 ea repo 66 Lemans tail panel trim, driver quality; $ A body door panel chrome trim; $30 pr. repo 66 GTO tail panel chrome, r&l ends only, pr driver quality; $35 Thanks, Jim Schultz jds66@comcast.net If someone calls please leave a message. For Sale: 1964 GTO Parts (2) hood scoop inserts Interior rear view mirror Grilles Various accessory belts Backup light switch (new) Horn ring and parts Center carb parts & kits Battery hold down Bob Winchell rwinch5418@bellsouth.net For Sale 1964 GTO Pinehurst Green, Code J, black vinyl top, PS, PB, 4-spd, Full Resto, Asking $50,000 Roy Smith (706) smitty2103@gmail.com Radiator for 66 GTO Tom Arnold (770) GTO, 4-speed with air Clay Chatham (770) GTO, left front fender Trevor Newman (864) trevornewman@charter.net For Sale NOS Pontiac & Olds Parts Large supply of factory original NOS GM parts for cars from the 40 s mid 70 s. Heavy on full size cars but some A body as well. Switches, relays, lenses, suspension, trim, etc. If you are looking for a production line correct part for your restoration, I may have it. (preferable) or call with specific needs. Robert Christanell rccduluth@comcast.net 1967 Ram Air Exhaust Manifolds If any club member has any experience with installing 1967 RA III Exhaust Manifolds on a 1964 or 1965 GTO, I would like to hear from you. It would be nice to know if there will be any problems before I get into a mess. Thanks. Paul Sorrells (404) or p.sorrells@comcast.net For Sale: 1967 Pontiac Lemans, with GTO grills and taillights(not installed) Solid body, 350 motor. auto trans, Silver body, Black Vinyl top, needs windshield. Located in Acworth, GA. Asking $8,500 Bill Luttrell

21 SEGTOA CLASSIFIEDS For Sale 1958 Pontiac Chieftain This Chieftain has the original motor/ transmission and is a 370 V8 with a 2- speed Power Glide. It has a cracked block. The motor is being replaced along with the transmission to make it road worthy again. The car is for sale, along with the original transmission/motor. For further details contact: Bart For Sale 1965 GTO This GTO is submitted by SEGTOA memer Jim Racela on behalf of the Woodward Tigers GTO Club (Jim is also a member of Woodward Tigers). For information please contact the seller noted. It is not numbers matching since it has a Pontiac 455 motor. It is a 4-speed car and has a clear title. VIN #237375K Contact Tim Little Pinckney, MI For Sale 1970 GTO Judge I want to give everyone a heads up. I have decided to offer my car for sale. It will be coming out in the August issue of Hemmings and can currently be viewed online at the Hemmings website. I am the original owner of a well kept, unmolested survivor, 1970 silver GTO JUDGE Ram Air III, 4 Speed. Bobby Miller

22 SEGTOA CLASSIFIEDS For Sale 1964 GTO 1964 GTO coupe with original 389 engine, 4 BBL carb and auto transmission. Has power drum brakes and power steering. Red with black vinyl top, black interior with bucket seats. Car is very solid with no rust in the floor boards and all the sheet metal is very straight. Car has an older paint job that could use waxing/buffing but the interior is in excellent condition with new carpet, headliner and seat covers installed a few years ago. Original door panels are in very good condition. Has a few bubbles starting to show in the paint near the bottom of the trunk lid, but back side of the trunk lid is solid. Car has been garaged for the last 45 years by the owner. Price is $ 29,000. Located in Northeast GA. Contact: Linda.Fuller@ung.edu For Sale 1970 GTO Convertible w/4-speed. Rally 2 wheels. Minimal rust, a little on the front of the hood, and some pits in the bumpers. It has had the quarters replaced and a weld section done on the frame that was a couple of feet long. Original Color Atoll Blue, tires are good, wheels are good. Replaced the original engine with a 502 CRATE that has only 3,500 miles on it. the Speedo reads out at 120,000 plus. Make Offer. Contact: Michael Evante mikeevante@aol.com 22

23 SEGTOA Technical Advisory Panel The members listed below have volunteered to share their special knowledge with other members. Please feel free to contact these involved members Doug Askew Jerry Hamilton (home) 1966 Bob Immekus (cell) 1967 Steve Pullen (cell) 1968 Denny Sanford (cell) 1969 Russ DeLamater (cell) 1970 Kenny Simpson (cell) BJ Benton (cell) Paul McGinnett (home) Tiger Tales is published monthly by the Southeastern GTO Association. SEGTOA is a chapter of the GTO Association of America ( the premier organization for GTO enthusiasts. Each month GTOAA members receive The Legend magazine, a Golden Quill Award Winning publication. SEGTOA is also associated with Pontiac Oakland Club International ( POCI members receive their monthly magazine Smoke Signals. SEGTOA is an organization dedicated to the survival of the Pontiac GTO, LeMans, and other classic Pontiacs. SEGTOA is open to anyone who shares our common interest in GTOs and other Pontiacs. We enjoy monthly Chapter meetings, including cruises, car shows, picnics, technical sessions and other fun activities. Our members hail from four different states! Members and their spouses, significant others and children are invited and encouraged to attend each monthly club function. Club Membership Dues Dues are $20 per year, payable January 1st each year. New members receive a $10 discount on membership their first year. SEGTOA dues requirements are waived for all active military. Membership in GTOAA and/or POCI is required for all members joining after Members must be in good standing to attend meetings, with the option to bring their membership up to date at any scheduled meeting. Membership application is available on the SEGTOA website. Checks should be made payable to Southeastern GTO Association and mailed to Mike Walling, Club Treasurer, 2679 Peppermint Drive, Tucker, GA