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1 Tiger Tales Southeastern GTO Association...a chapter of the GTO Association of America Check Out SEGTOA on FACEBOOK May 2016 Volume 30, Issue 5 Celebrating our 30th Year! Inside this issue: Next Event 1 President s Message Officers & Board 2 Denny Sanford 3 Next Event America s Vet Dogs Car Show & BBQ Saturday May 21 10AM - 3PM At Cadillac of Lake Lanier SEGTOA Save the Date Summit/Atlanta Motorama 5 6 Gainesville, GA See Flyer on Page 7 35th Annual Peach Blossom BOPC Show 8 Tech Tips 11 Club Gear 14 SEGTOA Classifieds 15 Resources 16

2 2015 Officers & Board Members President John Link Treasurer Ed Downing net President s Message Membership Kim Fowler Kfowler@segtoa.org Newsletter Jim Andrews jb6733andrews@etcmail.com Meetings Mike Walling mwalling@leitransportation.com Webmaster David Trees dlt1@cdc.gov Board Members Bob Immekus brimmekus@gmail.com Ed Bellair ebellair@segtoa.org Wow!! What an exciting BOPC! Compliments all around, SEGTOA put on a FUN and Profitable BOPC. The Friday Night Meet & Greet was planned for 50 attendees, and we had 50 attendees!! All seemed to enjoy the location and the Comradery. Although we probably would have had more cars with better early weather reports, we still had 129 beautiful cars AND terrific weather. The Lord knew we needed great weather and provided it!! The Church location worked and I believe the other Clubs want to use it in the future. Convenient location, Great food, Great awards, Great T-shirts, Great music, Great fun, what more could you want at a Car Show?? Thanks to everyone who brought your cars, and to all of you who worked the show. I ve received lots of compliments on how well the show went, YOU made the difference. THANKS!!! John Link 2

3 Recap 35th Annual BOPC Show Piedmont Church, Marietta Saturday April 30 Well, we did it. Another successful BOPC meet thanks to the many volunteers from SEGTOA. There were 129 cars in attendance, 72 awards given out, the weather was great, and the venue was most excellent. There were also 14 vendors utilizing 31 spaces, and 5 car corral spaces used. Total approximate attendance was: Buicks 30 Oldsmobiles 33 Pontiacs 48 Cadillacs 24 Vendors 14 Car Corral 5 There were only positive comments about the show, the venue, and how it was run. The rain held off until after everyone was gone and everything was squared away. We also wish to thank Piedmont Church for providing an outstanding site, and we have made a significant donation to them in return for their hospitality. Most of all, we thank the following SEGTOA volunteers who worked hard to make this a great event, some in the planning stages, many day of show: Paul & Hope Sorrels John & Kevin Link Bob & Pam Immekus Jim & Terri Andrews Ernie & Stephanie Stephens Danny Finkelstein Chris & Peggy McPherson Craig Dean Ed Bellair Steve Weisbarth Ed Downing Jim Paumen Mike Walling Kim Fowler Ben Hatfield If we failed to recognize you here, please know that we valued and appreciated your efforts. Thanks again from the 2016 BOPC Board. 3

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5 BOPC 2016 Awards Place Name Class Year Make Model 1st Bill Hansen A 1931 Buick 86 2nd Robert Johns A 1941 Cadillac Series 62 3rd Wyatt Peterson A 1941 Cadillac Series 62 1st Hobie Earnhart B 1950 Buick 46 S 2nd Alan Ziglin B 1947 Pontiac Streamliner 3rd William Torella B 1950 Olds 88 Club Coupe 1st Dick Peden C 1958 Pontiac Bonneville 2nd Dick Peden C 1957 Olds 98 3rd Chris & Peggy McPherson C 1955 Pontiac Chieftan 1st Roger Donaldson D Olds Super 88 2nd Robert Briggs D Cadillac ElDorado Biarritz 3rd Art Dempsey D Pontiac Catalina 1st J. D. & Roxanne Westfall D Buick Wildcat 2nd Alan Ziglin D Pontiac Grand Prix 3rd Alan Ziglin D Pontiac Grand Prix 1st Roy Bass E 1966 Buick Riviera GS 2nd Andrew Miller E 1988 Cadillac Eldorado 3rd Rory & Lucille O'Neill E 1978 Cadillac ElDorado Barritz 1st Kevin Rogers F 1971 Olds Delta 88 2nd Jack Horvath F 1976 Buick LeSabre 3rd Bruce Kyle F 1975 Buick LeSabre 1st Jerry Hicks G 1987 Olds Cutlass Salon 2nd Lewis Maya G 1978 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3rd Guy Van Ort G 1988 Cadillac Seville 1st Adam Decker H 1987 Buick Grand National 2nd Alan Faircloth H 1987 Buick Turbo Regal 3rd Sonny Mordt H 1980 Olds 442 1st Bill Meyers I 1988 Pontiac Fiero 2nd Scott Hutchinson I 2007 Cadillac XLR-V 3rd Jerry Richstein I 1990 Buick Reata 1st Gerald Troff J 1970 Pontiac Firebird 2nd James Stolle J 1985 Pontiac Trans Am 3rd Duane Barfield J 1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula 1st Eric Varah K 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 2nd Ken Clayton K 2002 Pontiac TransAm 3rd Kenny Simpson K 2002 Pontiac Firebird Formula 1st Michael Patania L 1967 Olds Cutlass 2nd Lee Hurdelbrink L 1965 Buick Skylark 3rd Steve Stanley L 1963 Pontiac LeMans 1st Stan Olstein M Cadillac 60 2nd Doug Askew M Pontiac GTO 3rd Steve Fleming M Olds Slantback 5

6 BOPC 2016 Awards 1st Thomas Schie N Olds 442 2nd Ernie Stephens N Pontiac GTO 3rd Jim Norton N Pontiac GTO 1st Gene Walsh O 1968 Buick Skylark Custom 2nd Joseph Neely O 1971 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3rd Stephen Bagley O 1968 Buick Skylark 1st Dennis Debes P 1973 Olds Cutlass Supreme 2nd Richard Cason P 1976 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3rd Garrett Shrout P 1973 Buick Cntury 1st Danny Finkelstein Q 1968 Buick GS400 2nd Ed Bellair Q 1968 Pontiac GTO 3rd Jeremiah Riggio Q 1968 Pontiac GTO 1st Joe Fotschky R 1969 Olds Hurst Olds 2nd Bill Simms R 1968 Pontiac GTO 3rd Jim Hobbs S 1972 Olds 442 W30 1st Adam Swatzburg T Pontiac GTO 2nd Roy Swatzburg T Pontiac GTO 3rd Marc Carson T Buick GS 455 Stage 1 1st Richard Burgess U 1992 Cadillac Brougham 2nd Chuck Giraud V 2006 Pontiac GTO 3rd David Smith V 2015 Cadillac CTS-V 1st Bob Stone V 2012 Buick Regal GS Best Buick Walt & Judy Ehrenfeuchter 1959 Buick Invicta Best Oldsmobile Dennis Debes 1973 Olds Cutlass Supreme Best Pontiac Alan Ziglin 1947 Pontiac Streamliner Best Cadillac Robert Briggs 1960 Cadillac ElDorado Biarritz Best of Show Robert Johns 1941 Cadillac Series 62 6

7 Summit Racing/Atlanta Motorama - April A few of us needed a break from the whirlwind of activities surrounding the preparations for the BOPC and decided to hang out at the Summit Racing/Atlanta Motorama at the Atlanta Motor Speedway 2 weeks before. The weather was perfect, unlike 2015, and the infield was packed with classics, muscle cars, rat rods, basically you name it, it was there. Ed Bellair, Bob Immekus, John Link, Mike Walling, Jim Andrews, Steve Hart, Alan Ziglin, and Steve Mondibrown set up for the weekend, and several took home club awards. All in all it was a welcome respite from the flurry of activity leading up to the BOPC. SEGTOA Club Awards Members Choice Mike Walling 1967 GTO Best Original Engine Paul McGinnett 2006 GTO Best Original Car Steve Mondibrown 1956 Starchief Biggest Engine Jim Andrews 1967 GTO 7

8 SEGTOA Save The Dates! May 21 - Vet Dogs Car Show & BBQ - Cadillac of Lake Lanier, Gainesville June Pontiacs in Pigeon Forge July 16 - Poboys Cruise-In - Canton Exit 20 August 13 - Club Picnic at Red Top Mountain State Park October TBD - Tail of the Dragon overnight trip September 17 - Hubcaps & History, Marietta Make plans to attend as many of our 2016 events as possible! Some are official, some are tentative. America s Vet Dogs in Lake Lanier is an opportunity to show your support and respect for injured veterans by helping to provide service dogs to them. All proceeds from the show go to this effort. We ll provide details for anyone who wants to convoy from the Atlanta area with the group. Bring your car, bring some money, and bring a buket or big jar. Here s how it works: The winning car will be the one that generates the most bucks. Place a jar in fron of your car. Everyboody votes with their dollars, and every cent goes to America s Vet Dogs. Want to buy a plaque for your car? Stuff the ballot box! Want to be on stage for your plaque? STUFF THAT BALLOT BOX WITH BUCKS! See the flyer on page 7. Pontiacs in Pigeon Forge is another great one. We had 11 people in 7 cars last year. Let s see if we can beat that number. This is a Pontiacs Only show, and there were and estimated 250 there last year. The special rate rooms are sold out at the Music Road Hotel and Inn, but there are still rooms available at the regular rates, and there are other hotels nearby. You can trailer your car or drive it up, and if you drive you won t have to go it alone. There will be several of us making the trip on Friday this year, taking a route with spectacular scenery. Visit the Pontiac s in Pigeon Forge Facebook page or go to to see how to reserve and register. The Tail of the Dragon overnight trip is a popular one that s becoming a regular event. Ask anyone who went last year and they ll tell you what a great time they had! These are your club events! Help make all of them a success! 8

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12 Tech Tips: The Snowball/Domino Effect, or Sometimes you just gotta laugh After contemplating a picture of my 67 GTO that hides all the sheetmetal imperfections, I decided that the front end was sitting too high. Since my car has power drum brakes, lowering spindles were not an option unless I converted to disc brakes, completely unnecessary in my mind since the car stops on a dime and leaves 2 (not 5) cents change. First, a little background. I grew up in a car family. My dad was an engineer at Ford who worked on the original Mustang program. My mom was an executive secretary at Ford (so how did I end up with a GTO?!?). My uncle is a car collector. My brother and I were named after cars (ask me some time). My youngest son is an ASE Certified Master Mechanic. I ve rebuilt differentials, swapped clutches and transmissions, and built engines. I think I can handle this. Off to Summit Racing for lowering springs. The upper ball joints had been replaced, but lowers were needed. Since the front end would be apart anyway, let s replace the upper and lower control arm bushings, stabilizer bar bushings, and jounce bumpers. Oh, and we might as well replace the upper control arm shaft mounting bolts too. And new shock absorbers and hardware. I m running out of space for all these parts Okay. First, remove the brake backing plates. The left comes right off, the right won t budge. Alright, disconnect the brake line, take the spindle and backing plate off as a unit. The 48 year old lower ball joint nut turns the stud. Cold chisel the nut off, and gently tap the spindle out of the backing plate with a bolt threaded part way in. Success. The old springs are out now (finagling the coil spring compressor hooks is a story for another day). So let s remove the upper control arms. Dang. The left arm is too close to the header to get the mounting shaft nut off. Drop the steering wheel and remove the the header bolts. Dang. Still no room. Out comes the Sawzall to shorten the bolts. Wrestle the upper control arm off. Bend a c-clamp trying to press the mounting shaft bolts out, resort to the ball joint press with a nut and big honkin washer. Remove the bolts from the lower control arms. Rats. Can t get the left side bolts out without disconnecting the exhaust downpipe from the collector flange on the shorty headers. Okay, upper and lower control arms are off. The uppers are fine, they can be gritblasted and repainted. The lowers need to be replaced. They come with ball joints and bushings. Anybody need lower ball joints and lower control arm bushings (the ones I bought back in paragraph 3)? Then I realize that I need offset upper control arm shafts for proper alignment. They come with bushings. Anyone need a set? On to reassembly. With the left lower control arm off, I have perfect access to the collector flange so I bolt the downpipe back on. Oh. The control arm bolts won t go on with the pipe in place. Sigh. Pipe off, control arm on. Uppers back from the sandblaster, primed painted, beautiful. Ball joints on, bushings and control arm shafts mounted, spindles on, backing plates on, shocks mounted, bolts torqued at curb height, brakes bled. Wheels on, looks great! Wait a minute. The right side sits an inch higher than the left. Remove the spring and cut half a coil off. Okay. Wheels on and front end aligned, both sides even. Now let s do that power steeering gear conversion... Jim Andrews 12

13 Club Gear Since we are not in the retail business, we will not be obtaining and selling hats, shirts, and other club gear any longer. But you can now get many items with the SEGTOA logo on them by contacting: Pirate Printing Hiram, GA Wayne Clark is our contact, and he is anxiously awaiting your order! 13

14 SEGTOA CLASSIFIEDS Miscellaneous used parts from 1965 Pontiac GTO for sale Qty Ben Hatfield (251) Description 1 OE Tripower Intake Manifold 1 Power Brake Booster Custom Auto Sound Model SST Hidden 1 AM/FM Radio 1 Drive Shaft 1 OE Heater Box 1 OE Bell Housing OE 4-Sp Tunnel Hump (to be used for 1 Auto to Manual Conversion) All of the above are in good working order For Sale: Ring & Pinion 3.08 from '74 SD 455 T/A - $50 Rotating engine stand $30 Paul Sorrells (404) p.sorrells@comcast.net VERY RARE COMPLETE SET OF SERVICE BULLETINS FOR 1965GTO $100 Very rare book compilation of Service Bulletins for 1965 GTO. over 150 ppages divided into 18 different sections, i.e. engine, seats, convertible top etc. I ve had this for 30 years and the individual bulletins look like they ve never been used. They called them Flash News. If you have a 65 GTO you need this book. This is not a copy, it s the original book from the dealer. 67 GTO Parts for Sale Gas tank 4 - G70-14 Wide Oval Red Line tires, bias-ply, off rims Larry Greer GreerLawrence245@gmail.com Wanted Nice 14 inch Rallye II wheels. Contact-John Link GTO FLAT RATE GUIDE $15 Original flat rate guide for repairs on GTO/Tempest it estimates hours of labor to fix car. Great for any owner of 65 GTO. I ve never seen one. I had it for 30 years till I sold my gto New GTO Concept brocure $10 This is the info sent to the dealer on the new GTO in It is conept drawings and 3 letters to the dealer about the new GTO. Also includes slides of the concept car as well as older GTOs. Bob Mohalley Mohalley@aol.com 14

15 Resources From club member Ernie Stephens: SEGTOA members have the opportunity to join the North Georgia Car Club ngautoclub.com. The club was formerly known as the Lockheed Martin Auto Club. Lockheed Martin is no longer affiliated with the club and it now operates as a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC). North Georgia Auto Club is located on Atlanta Road, Marietta Georgia and it features three (3) work bays, an extensive tool collection, tire changer, tool check out opportunity, 3 phase air compressor, brake change rack, and oil change rack. New membership dues are only $75.00 annually! GTO Parts & Services Sources Thank You to Jeremiah Riggio, Bob Mohalley, and Jim Racela for tracking down some useful on-line sources for GTO parts and services. Hopefully these will prove useful to you in keeping your GTO looking like a proper time machine! General Info Carbs Engines & Heads Radios Wheels Pontiac Tripower Pontiac Literature From member Jim Racela: The first link is a listing of copies of original brochures for classic cars. The 2nd is a link to an example, in this case a PDF file of the available accessories and prices for 1966 Pontiac full car line. (Aside to John Link: Sorry buddy, but there isn't anything listed under the 1969 Buick category! Darn!) AardvarkPublisherAttachments/ /1966_Mini_Accessorizer_Catalog.pdf 15

16 SEGTOA Technical Advisory Panel The members listed below have volunteered to share their special knowledge with other members. Please feel free to contact these involved members Doug Askew Jerry Hamilton (home) 1966 Bob Immekus (cell) 1967 Steve Pullen (cell) 1968 Ed Bellair (cell) 1969 Russ DeLamater (cell) 1970 Kenny Simpson (home) BJ Benton (cell) Paul McGinnett (home) Tiger Tales is published monthly by the Southeastern GTO Association. SEGTOA is a chapter of the GTO Association of America ( the premier organization for GTO enthusiasts. Each month GTOAA members receive The Legend magazine, a Golden Quill Award Winning publication. SEGTOA is also associated with Pontiac Oakland Club International ( POCI members receive their monthly magazine Smoke Signals. SEGTOA is an organization dedicated to the survival of the Pontiac GTO, LeMans, and other classic Pontiacs. SEGTOA is open to anyone who shares our common interest in GTOs and other Pontiacs. We enjoy monthly Chapter meetings, including cruises, car shows, picnics, technical sessions and other fun activities. Our members hail from four different states! Members and their spouses, significant others and children are invited and encouraged to attend each monthly club function. Club Membership Dues Dues are $20 per year, payable January 1st each year. New members receive a $10 discount on membership their first year. SEGTOA dues requirements are waived for all active military. Membership in GTOAA and/or POCI is required for all members joining after Members must be in good standing to attend meetings, with the option to bring their membership up to date at any scheduled meeting. Membership application is available on the SEGTOA website. Checks should be made payable to Southeastern GTO Association and mailed to Ed Downing, Club Treasurer, 381 St. Marys Lane, Marietta, GA

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