THE FIRING LINE Honeywell Flame Rod and Pilot Burner Cross Reference Cross Reference Data: HONEYWELL PYRONICS C7004 page EN page 9 C700 page 4EN page 9 C7007 page PROTECTION CONTROLS C7008 page R page 9 C7009 page 4 R page 9 C70 page 4 R4 page 9 ID00 page 4 BARBER COLEMAN Q79 pages -7 page 9 FIREYE 9ND page 9 NOTE: Some burner manufacturers make their own flame rods, which are not listed in this section. Generally, a functional replacement can be selected from the TRADELINE or FLAME SAFEGUARD Catalogs. F.P. Rev. -9 70-8 Honeywell Inc. 99
C7004B FLAME ROD HOLDER Device to be Current Mounting Flame Rod Flame Rod Replaced Replacement (Pipe Size) Diameter (in.) Used Comments C7004B00 C7004B00 in. pipe-setscrew / 0709A,B,C,D,E or 07 C7004B00 C7004B00 in. pipe-setscrew / (order separately) AngIe body. C7004B08 C7004B08 -/4 in. pipe-setscrew / 0709A,B,C,D,E or 07 C7004B0 C7004B00 in. pipe-setscrew / (order separately) Angle body. C7004B044 C7004B0 -/4 in. threaded / C7004B0 C7004B0 -/4 in. threaded / 0709A,B,C,D,E or 07 For positive pressure fire box. (order separately) Replacement is not an angle body holder. 0709A-E Kanthal A Flame Rods. 07 -inch Globar Flame Rod. C700 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY Device to be Current Orifice Size Replaced Replacement (in.) Gas Type Comments C700A00 None 0.08 Manufactured C700A0 None 0.08 Manufactured C700A09 C700A07 0.0 Natural C700A07 C700A07 0.0 Natural C700A04 C700A07 0.08 Propane C700B00 None 0.08 Manufactured C700B models include ignition electrode. C700B09 None 0.08 Manufactured C700B models include ignition electrode. C700B07 C700B0 0.0 Natural C700B models include ignition electrode. C700B0 C700B0 0.0 Natural C700B models include ignition electrode. C700B04 C700B0 0.08 Propane C700B models include ignition electrode. C700B00 C700B0 0.08 Propane C700B models include ignition electrode. C700B08 None 0.0 Butane C700B models include ignition electrode. The orifice of the C700 is in the venturi assembly. When replacing the C700, use the existing venturi of the device being replaced. If a new venturi or a propane venturi is required, order according to Table. TABLE Orifice Size (in.) Venturi Part Number 0.0 0004B 0.08 087B
C7007 FLAME ROD HOLDER Device to be Current Mounting Flame Rod Flame Rod Replaced Replacement (Pipe Size) Diameter (in.) Used Comments C7007A00 C7007A00 / in. NPT male / 0709A,B,C or D (order separately) C7007A09 C7007A00 / in. NPT female / 0709A,B,C or D (order separately) C7007A07 C7007A00 /4 in. NPT female / 0709A,B,C or D (order separately) C7007A0 C7007A00 in. NPT female / 0709A,B,C or D (order separately) Use appropriate standard pipe coupling.
C7008 FLAME ROD AND HOLDER ASSEMBLIES Current Device to be Tradeline Mounting Flame Rod Flame Rod Replaced Replacement (Pipe Size) Diameter (in.) Used Comments C7008A000 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded C7008A08 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded C7008A0 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 8 C7008A04 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 4 C7008A04 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded Angle pattern. C7008A09 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded Angle pattern. C7008A07 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 8 Angle pattern. C7008A07 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 4 Angle pattern. C7008A08 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded Less cover. C7008A09 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded Less cover. C7008A09 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 8 Less cover. C7008A7 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 4 Less cover. C7008A C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 7 C7008A C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 8 C7008A4 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 4 C7008A8 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded Less cover. C7008A C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded Less cover and Rajah connector. C7008A74 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded TRADELINE. C7008A8 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 4 TRADELINE. C7008A90 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / in., one end - NC threaded 4-/ Cut flame rod to length. Replacement has 4-inch flame rod. Replacement is straight pattern.
C7009, C70 AND ld00 FLAME ROD ASSEMBLIES AND HOLDERS Device to be Current Mounting Flame Rod Replaced Replacement (Pipe Size) Flame Rod Diameter Length (in.) Comments C7009A009 C7009A009 /8 in. NPT male / in. one end -NF-A threaded 4 C7009A07 C7009A0 /8 in. NPT male / in. one end -NF-A threaded 8 C7009A0 C7009A0 /8 in. NPT male / in. one end -NF-A threaded C7009A0 C7009A009 /8 in. NPT male / in. one end -NF-A threaded -/ C7009A04 C7009A0 /8 in. NPT male / in. one end -NF-A threaded Less flame rod. C7009A08 C7009A08 /8 in. NPT male / in. one end -NF-A threaded 9 C70A00 None -/4 in. pipe-setscrew / in. Use 0709A,B,C,D, or E rod (order separately). D00AX C7007A00 /4 in. NPT female / in. Use 0709A,B,C,D, or E rod (order separately). D00AX C7007A00 in. NPT female / in. Use 0709A,B,C,D, or E rod (order separately). Cut flame rod to length. Replacement C7007A00 has / in. NPT male mounting. Use appropriate standard pipe coupling. Kanthal A. 4
Q79 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY Device to be Current Gas Type With Ignition Replaced Replacement (Orifice Size Inches) Port and Burner Tip Electrode Comments Q79A00 Q79A00 Natural I Yes Q79A09 Q79A00 + 4740 LP I Yes Q79A07 None Natural 4 Degree l Yes Q79A0 Q79A0 Natural 4 Degree Right-Hand Yes Q79A04 Q79A0 + 4740 LP 4 Degree Right-Hand Yes Q79A00 Q79A00 Natural T Yes Q79A08 Q79A00 + 4740 LP T Yes Q79A07 Q79A07 Natural 4 Degree Y Yes Q79A084 Q79A97 + 4740 LP 4 Degree Y Yes Q79A09 Q79A09 Natural 4 Degree T Yes Q79A00 Q79A09 + 4740 LP 4 Degree T Yes Q79A8 Q79A8 Natural 4 Degree Left-Hand Yes Q79A Q79A Natural I Yes High temperature. Q79A4 None Natural 4 Degree Left-Hand Yes High temperature. Q79A4 Q79A00 + 40A Natural T Yes Special electrode. Q79A9 None Natural T Yes Right-hand electrode. 4 Q79A7 Q79A7 Natural I Yes Special orifice. Q79A7 Q79A00 + 449A Natural T Yes Left-hand electrode. 4 See page 8. Replacement must be modified with 0.0 inch LP gas orifice, part no. 4740. Part no. 40A, 4 degree I port flame rod and insulator assembly. 0.08 inch diameter orifice. Part no. 449A, right-hand, 90 degree flame rod and insulator assembly.
Q79 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY (continued) Device to be Current With Ignition Replaced Replacemment Gas (Orifice) Type Port Type Electrode Comments Q79B000 Q79A00 Natural I No Q79B08 Q79A00 + 4740 LP I No Q79B0 None Natural 4 Degree l No Q79B04 Q79A0 + 4740 LP 4 Degree Right-Hand No Q79B04 Q79004 Natural T No Q79B09 Q79004 + 4740 LP T No Q79B07 Q79A07 Natural 4 Degree Y No Q79B07 Q79A07 + 4740 LP 4 Degree Y No Q79B08 Q79A09 Natural 4 Degree T No Q79B09 Q79A0 Natural 4 Degree Right-Hand No Q79B09 None Natural 4 Degree Left-Hand No Q79B7 Q79B7 Natural I (Large) No Q79B None Natural I No High temperature. Q79B None Natural 4 Degree Left-hand No High temperature. Q79B4 Q79A00 + 40A Natural I No Special electrode. Q79B8 None Natural T No Right-hand electrode. Q79B None Natural 4 Degree T No Special orifice. Q79B74 None Natural I No High temperature. Q79B8 Q79B8 Natural T No Proprietary to Cleaver Brooks. 4 See page 8. Current replacement must be modified with special part (orifice or special electrode). Part no. 4740, 0.0 inch LP orifice. Part no. 40A, 4 degree I port flame rod and insulator assembly. Available from proprietary OEM only. Replacement has ignition electrode in addition to flame electrode (rod).
Q79 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY (continued) Device to be Current Gas Type With Ignition Replaced Replacement (Orifice Size Inches) Burner Tip and Mounting Electrode Comments Q79C009 Q79C009 Natural (0.0) D tip, rear mount Yes Q79C07 None Natural (0.04) K tip, rear mount Yes Q79C0 Q79C0 Natural (0.04) L4 tip, rear mount Yes Q79C0 Q79C0 Natural (0.0) D7 tip, Ieft-side mount Yes Q79C04 Q79C04 Natural (0.0) D8 tip, right-side mount Yes Q79C08 Q79C08 Natural (0.04) L0 tip, Ieft-side mount Yes Q79C0 Q79C0 Natural (0.04) K tip, right-side mount Yes Q79C074 Q79C009 Natural (0.0) D tip, rear mount Yes With in. wing span target. Q79C08 None Natural (0.0) K tip, lef-side mount Yes Rheem Manufacturing special. Q79D008 Q79D008 Natural (0.0) D tip, rear mount No Q79D0 Q79D0 Natural (0.0) D7 tip, left-side mount No Q79D04 Q79D04 Natural (0.0) D8 tip, right-side mount No Q79D0 Q79D0 Natural (0.0) D tip, rear mount No With in. wing span target. Q79D07 Q79D07 Natural (0.04) L0 tip, left-side mount No Q79D0 None LP (0.0) D tip, rear mount No Q79D9 Q79D9 LP (0.0) D tip, rear mount No With in. wing span target. See page 8. 7
Q79 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY (PORTS, BURNER TIPS AND MOUNTING) Q79A,B E 4 LEFT HAND "ELL" D - D TIP DUAL WING TARGET REAR MOUNT Q79C OR D D7 - D TIP DUAL WING TARGET LEFT-SIDE MOUNT A "I" PORT D - D TIP DUAL WING TARGET FRONT MOUNT D8 - D TIP DUAL WING TARGET RIGHT-SIDE MOUNT F "T" PORT L0 - L TIP SINGLE WING LEFT-HAND TARGET LEFT-SIDE MOUNT B 4 "I" PORT G 4 "Y" PORT K - K TIP SINGLE WING RIGHT-HAND TARGET REAR MOUNT Q79C ONLY K9 - K TIP SINGLE WING RIGHT-HAND TARGET LEFT-SIDE MOUNT D 4 RIGHT HAND "ELL" L4 - L TIP SINGLE WING LEFT-HAND TARGET REAR MOUNT K - K TIP SINGLE WING RIGHT-HAND TARGET RIGHT-SIDE MOUNT H 4 "T" PORT K - K TIP SINGLE WING RIGHT-HAND TARGET FRONT MOUNT L - L TIP SINGLE WING LEFT-HAND TARGET RIGHT-SIDE MOUNT NOTE THAT GROUND PRONG IS CUT OFF CLOSE TO BASE. M007 L - L TIP SINGLE WING LEFT-HAND TARGET FRONT MOUNT NOTE: MOUNTING NUMBER DESIGNATES BOTH BRACKET TYPE AND TARGET CONFIGURATION. DESCRIPTION REFERENCE POINT IS FROM BACK OF BURNER TARGET. M87 8
COMPETITIVE FLAME ROD AND HOLDER ASSEMBLIES Device to be Current Mounting Flame Rod Replaced Tradeline Replacement (Pipe Size) Rod Diameter (in.) Length (in.) Comments Pyronics EN C7008A74 /8 in. NPT male /8 Angle body. EN C7008A74 /8 in. NPT male /8 Angle body. 4EN C7008A74 / in. NPT male /8 Angle body. 4EN C7008A74 / in. NPT male /8 Angle body. Protection Controls R0 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male /8 Angle body. R C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male /8 Angle body. R8 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male /8 8 Angle body. R4 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male /8 4 Angle body. R0 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / Angle body. R C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male / Angle body. R8 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / 8 Angle body. R4 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male / 4 Angle body. R40 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male /4 Angle body. R4 C7008A74 /4 in. NPT male /4 Angle body. R48 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male /4 8 Angle body. R44 C7008A8 /4 in. NPT male /4 4 Angle body. Barber Coleman -4- C7008A74 /4 in. lps male Unknown Angle body. -4- C7008A74 /4 in. lps male Unknown Angle body. -4- C7008A74 /4 in. IPS male Unknown -4- C7008A74 /4 in. IPS male Unknown Fireye 9ND 000K4 C7008A74 / in. NPT male Unknown 9ND 000K C7008A8 / in. NPT male Unknown 8 9ND 000K8 C7008A8 / in. NPT male Unknown 4 Use appropriate standard pipe coupling. Cut flame rod to length. In some cases, the current replacement has a different mounting means, flame rod length and/or diameter, and a different body style. These should be checked before making a replacement. A pilot turndown test should be performed after making a replacement. 9
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