Appendix I Telephone Survey Results wq-b11-01i
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Appendix I: Telephone Survey Results te: All calls made during the last two weeks of January 2009. Responder was generally the Street Superintendant or equivalent. All cities and counties called, responses received from those jurisdictions at their desks or who chose to return the call. Jurisdiction Written plan? What products do you use? Ever used alternate products? Target locations for alt products? Do you prewet? Temp sensors or electronic app control? Who calibrates your spreaders? Anoka County Salt, salt/sand (20-50%), salt brine M-80, no difference from salt, CaCl too corrosive, too expensive Prewet on bridges, at spinner, 1/2 sensors In-house mechanics once a year Anoka County Parks Salt, cut way back, 1/10th of what we used to use Salt intersections for commuter route or just plow Operators Manually, street foreman Blaine Road salt, salt brine, CaCl CaCl Road temp sensors annually Bloomington Sand/salt 7/1, salt Clear Lane, worked well, cost high, will be going to alt products CSAH, specialty population, bridge decks Road temp sensors Supervisors, each storm Brooklyn Center Rock salt, Clear Lane Clear Lane, temp dependent Road temp sensors, electronic app control Annual by staff Brooklyn Park Salt, salt brine, salt/sand 1/4 Clear Lane, Ice Ban, not effective for the money, if on truck Road watch Operators, annually Burnsville Have basic plan Salt, Clear Lane Clear Lane, works, cost is an issue Clear Lane on main roads, cold events Road temp and speed sensors Annually, subcontractors calibrate Carver County, working on one Salt, sand/salt 3/1 or 4/1 Salt, reclaim red rock chips from Carver County Parks formal summer seal coats Chaska Sand/salt 3/1 Clear Lane, worked not too bad, cost an issue Clear Lane used east, 2010 Road temp sensors on truck Mechanics and operators, annually, adjustments Intersections, curves, asphalt areas Clear Lane, works well, cost is Clear Lane, parking areas in, foreman and mechanics an issue cold situations every year Coon Rapids, modeled after League Salt, caliber Caliber Spray salt solution in bridge decks Road temp sensors, electronic app control Calibrated annually by mechanics Cottage Grove Crystal, going to put it online Some of both, primarily 100% salt Small amounts, low temp applications New are all computerized, multi times per year, after approval Salt, sand/salt 7/1 Prewetting on busy route, one truck MnDOT sensor program, mechanics annually Appendix I - 1
Jurisdiction Anoka County Operator discretion in setting application rates?, coaching/training, 85% monitored Operator training - where and who? In-house, MnDOT training new employees, attends inhouse Do you track application rates and use data? Track operator, rate, time, concentrate on new operators, don't currently use to plan Describe salt storage Sand outside, all salt inside, elevator, dumper, conveyor Do you sweep streets, how often, what equipment? Sweep 4-5 times per year, targeted to pipes, water. Sweep in spring, use truck mounted pickup broom What changes are you considering? Slowing spinners down, 100% sensors, increased monitoring, using MgCl on bridges, monitor salt usage Anoka County Parks, varies by operator In-house for operators Track annual use At county Per truck per event, do use data Coverall, three wall. Direct Blaine, but encouraged not to in-house, to manage delivery, walk behind sweeper for sidewalks At least twice, spring and fall, regen air Experiment with sidewalk products. Walk-behind spreader Bloomington Brooklyn Center Brooklyn Park, guidance, judgment, how it's working, temp and weather In-house, LTAP,, road salt symposium Annual meeting and pre-event meetings, Operator/route, use for budgeting Route and event, temp, traffic, sun MnDOT came, Event and operator route Salt building totally enclosed, in by truck, loaders inside Enclosed building, 4 sided, brought in with loaders Enclosed on asphalt, salt brine attached, load delivery inside Spring/fall, elgin sweepers, mechanical, vacuum 3 times, winter, spring, fall, midsummer, elgin, pelican 2-3 time year minimum, spring/fall, 2 mech sweepers, regen air Refining, automatic vehicle location Changes in technology, materials, adding electronic control Replacing trucks to upgrade tech Burnsville Carver County Carver County Parks, high, low, sparing Chaska, some flexibility provided but generally directed, within parameters, meeting to suggest, some in-house, SSA- LTAC, vo-tech for general plow driving, salt symposium, trained Getting there Enclosed building, contract delivery, dumped inside Some in-house, some LTAP, St Cloud fall maint expo, maybe Coverall building,?, mixed salt not all in same year, salt per storm sand outside Highway training, truck operator Highway dept keeps track storage, get from county Stored outside in parking area, Annual meeting, no requirement, by storm loader Spring, in summer as needed, fall leaf sweep, regen air sweeper, 2 pickup brooms Several times per year, in spring, use pickup brooms, contract with cities, have bobcat sweepers for sidewalks Spring/summer/fall, pickup broom More prewetting, new shop, brine solution machine, more documentation on use, reduction in rates, work on procedures Prewetting, electronic sanding, increased tracking ne Salt shed, would reduce sand Coon Rapids Cottage Grove Crystal, tracked rates, snow and ice seminar in Wisconsin, salt symposium All, in-house, operators get Some areas are allowed to boost assigned to units Coverall facility, semis deliver, rented loader By operator, do use data Newer trucks dump data, operators hand in written, use for budget Salt shed, Shingle Creek training, LTAP, Route, storm event Covered, barn style 3-4 times per year, 1 pelican, 1 timco Spring contract over 1-2 weeks, in-house fall, mechanical ne Twice year spring fall, 1 mechanical 1 regen air More brine More controllers, more prewetting, making own brine Appendix I - 2
Jurisdiction Written plan? What products do you use? Ever used alternate products? Target locations for alt products? Do you prewet? Temp sensors or electronic app control? Who calibrates your spreaders? Dakota County Salt, MgCl, sand/salt 90/10 Clear Lane, cost an issue Road temp sensors Fleet maintenance people yearly Dakota County Parks, working on it 40% salt/60% sand, salt, MgCl Use MgCl when it's really cold Sand when cold and low speeds 1-1/2 ton trucks with spreaders off back for trails Eagan Salt, MgCl liquid, salt brine, sand/salt 50/50 minimal Clear lane, worked well, cost effective to mix ourselves, 9 gallons per ton, 15+ NaCl brine all trucks outfitted 4 truck mounted sensors, speed oriented In-house yearly Edina Farmington, incorporated Salt, treated salt, liquid salt, some Clear Lane, MgCl, worked, cost into code salt/sand and issue Bridge decks, busy routes, 70% City policy, 2" snow Salt, set DTN weather, road temp sensors, in-house annually mechanics annually and periodic checks Forest Lake Salt treated w Caliber, 70/30 sand/salt, rock chip Clear Lane, worked, M2000 (Caliber) Fridley, on website Salt, salt/sand 20% salt Ham Lake Salt/sand 50/50, 25/75 Salt/sand targeted to hills, intersections, street super calibrates by storm, rth American MgCl, corn, works excellent, cost an issue Main roads, annual by maintenance staff Hastings no Salt, MgCl, fall sealcoat rocks Rock salt, salt/sand 1/10 on low volume routes, 10% MgCl, treated salt, antiicing trailer, potassium Hennepin County acetate Clear Lane, Caliber 1000, fall rocks Clear Lane intersections Road temp sensors Clear Lane, Ice Ban, annoying to use, guy had to come mix, too expensive Antiicing on bridges with salt brine, hills, 30-40% Road temp sensors, electronic application control Mechanic annually with adjustments Annually, 2 operators calibrate Hopkins Salt, sand/salt 2/1 Salt/sand 2/1, treated salt, salt Road temp sensors, Manufacturer calibrated, Inver Grove Heights treated with MgCl MgCl electronic control mechanics helped, annually Lino Lakes 90/10 sand/salt Maplewood Online 50/50 salt sand Geomelt Drivers calibrate Minneapolis Salt, salt/sand 1/5-1/3, limited antiicing with salt brine Clear Lane, low cost-benefit, 13/60 capable Ground speed control, hand held road temp sensors, staff, annually Appendix I - 3
Jurisdiction Operator discretion in setting application rates? Operator training - where and who? Do you track application rates and use data? Describe salt storage Do you sweep streets, how often, what equipment? What changes are you considering? Dakota County, discussion amongst themselves In-house, MnDOT, LTAP, Events not typically tracked, Coverall building wood track problem spots, do use data building, no leaks, sloped, to manage trucks dump directly Sweep mid April as needed, use Pelican, 2 elgins ne Dakota County Parks Eagan Edina Farmington Forest Lake Fridley Ham Lake Hastings Hard setting, generally given target or range, no specific info LTAP in Bloomington for, LTAP, Hennepin Co, Could track by billings, manage (sort of) by cost Dakota Cty Empire shop t usually due to salt use By event, by driver, by equipment, use MnDOT Gable roof barn, open on both At least twice, every spring and guidelines, mostly bookkeeping ends, 150' x 40',wooden, dump fall, vacuum sweeper, 2 &recordkeeping inside Pelicans By operator, plow rote, storm event Covered bunker, concrete, 3 walls, 1500 tons, delivered outside, loaders used, LTAP, all By snowfall Pick it up at county facility Twice+, spring and fall, 3 full sized sweepers, Elgins Spring twice, fall three times, 2 Elgins Less staff, sharing staff with county thing major, continued reduction of salt usage, possible anti-icing Looking for better products, adjust for hot spots In-house, Year to year Roof, Elgin mechanical, getting good results, use on gravel roads, use rock chips, trained by super, all By truck, by area, used for Covered one sided open shed,, 1+ up to 6 times, spring and all summer, mechanical and, knowledge operators monitoring end dumps, loading with loaders regen air ne, only spot application, Once year go through policy, Open front building, steel metal wood frame, load on paved area experience, temperature attend expo, t really using loader Spring, fall, and as needed Pelicans Classes, Arden Hills/Bloomington, all but one By operators, use for ordering Salt shed, one open face, inside delivery, loaders Twice/yr spring and fall, 2 sweepers: mech and vacuum, water truck ne Antiicing to reduce salt usage Hennepin County Lino Lakes Maplewood Minneapolis, some, automatc vehicle location, visual survey, shading, MnDOT training, in-house, ice pack By operator, route, event, year, use to reduce application rate Hopkins Condition of road St Cloud driving range, based on weather, mount Operator, storm event, weather, Inver Grove Heights of snow, route LTAP, estimated, nice uniform pattern Yearly safety training, Hennepin Tech storage facility 16000 ton shed, open face, 3 sides with roof, dumped inside Twice or more, in spring and fall, use 3 Elgins and 3 Pelicans More prewetting Concrete fully enclosed, dump inside and outside Spring and fall, Pelican ne Part of larger building, concrete, enclosed Spring and fall, Elgin, Pelican Prewetting, antiicing, Apex Spring and fall and as needed, pickup brooms New salt storage Don't anticipate going 100% salt, installing sub-collectors in Depends on road segment, up to operator In-house, Event, total at end of season, Salt shack storm sewers so salt can be As soon as possible, mechanical removed To certain extent, guidelines based on temp/condition in-house/mndot, Still learning, track use daily Covered structures, 3 walled, 3 perm, 2 temp Twice, alleys once, rotating basis, spring and fall, broom & air Forced due to money, more prewetting, sensors control Appendix I - 4
Jurisdiction Written plan? What products do you use? Ever used alternate products? Target locations for alt products? Minnetonka Rock salt, treated with Caliber Kind of New Hope 3/1 sand/salt, Clear Lane Clear Lane Do you prewet? Temp sensors or electronic app control? Speed control on trucks, hand held road temp sensor Road temp sensors, electronic control Who calibrates your spreaders? in-house calibration annually Mechanic, annually rth St Paul Straight salt, some salt/sand Clear Lane, worked well Annually MgCl, CaCl, good in really low Computerized spreaders, Oakdale Online 100% salt temps, limited use temp sensors In-house Plymouth Working on it NaCal, brine, MgCl MgCl Cold weather only Minimal use, hand held road temp sensor City employees annually Prior Lake Online Straight salt Ice Ban, worked well, Geomelt, salt brine, add calcium, ice ban Force America controller, road watch Twice year Ramsey County Salt Pilot MgCl, brine MgCl on bridge decks Road temp sensors in-house at least once year in fall Richfield Rock salt Just starting to use - mixed Roseville, online Sand/salt 3/1, salt, Clear Lane Clear Lane, expensive results in fall, prior to snow treat Savage, online Salt/sand 50/50 for frost Electronic application control 2 trucks with road temp sensors Computerized spreaders, road temp sensors Mechanics, annually, biannually In-house yearly Annually Scott County Clear Lane, 50/50 salt sand Clear Lane Pretreat bridges Pretreat bridges Road temp sensors In-house yearly Three Rivers Parks Salt/sand 10/90, high cost for benefit, but focus on key intersections, curves, speed higher than 20 mph Washington County Parks, follow highway dept Sidewalk - MgCl, salt from highway dept MgCl, CaCl, good White Bear Lake Online Straight salt Road temp sensors In-house White Bear Twp Straight salt Clear Lane, cost prohibitive Operator decides Appendix I - 5
Jurisdiction Operator discretion in setting application rates? Operator training - where and who? Do you track application rates and use data? Describe salt storage Do you sweep streets, how often, what equipment? What changes are you considering? Minnetonka New Hope, temperature Force America rep, Yearly St Cloud, salt symposium,, temp chart Truck, event, try to use Covered storage facility, 3 walls, blacktop spring, 3 Pelicans More antiicing, less caliber, liquid corn salt or brine Dome storage facility, delivery dump outside Twice year, spring, fall, elgin Going to salt rth St Paul Oakdale Plymouth Prior Lake Ramsey County, can apply higher rate at stops and hillsides All operators Annual, track total usage only Enclosed salt storage Only discretion is to boost at Event, operator, gal/mile, intersections In-house, ton/mile, snow inches Salt building Dome structure, open door,, through training All been to LTAP By route, event outside dumping -preprogrammed, based on LTAP training, LTAP, Scott County, snow conference LTAP, 2 reports: application rate, lbs/distance/speed, provide to drivers Indoors Mechanical & regen air Lane mile salt usage, publish salt usage, operator and route. 2 large covered storage, concrete slab, fabric dome, haul own salt, conveyer belt Spring and fall, once in summer, Elgin mech, Tennent vac Things are working Spring/fall, two broom sweepers Tried brine Plowing practices might change, 3 times/year, regen air, broom more antiicing 2 complete sweepings and as much as possible, spring, no sand, broom sweepers Trying liquid only in small areas, doing a watershed study Reduce usage, increase equipment with prewetting Richfield Roseville Savage Scott County, weather, snow levels, temps In -house, Total yearly salt Use MnDOT Cedar facility, covered closed Spring, once mid summer, 3/4 times in fall, Elgin, Pelicans Spring, late summer leaf pickup, Some - if temp changes usually Tracked by event, drivers give vacuum leaves, Elgin pick a rate based on temp LTAP, totals, used for budget Salt shed, concrete facility mechanical Generally flat rate but hot spots can adjust Meeting in-house Event tracking, temps Salt shed Mechanical, Elgin and broom Just started brining Yearly, MnDOT salt symposium, every operator By operator, by route Blacktop, cement walls, hoop design, loader Twice spring and fall, Pelican, 410 John Deere garden tractor, hand Prewetting, other chemicals, increased tracking Antiicing get out before storm, gps speed location Going with different salt, natural from Utah Three Rivers Parks Washington County Parks White Bear Lake White Bear Twp Manually adjusted Workshops for key staff annually Don't track use, purchase annually storage, get from county, building storage facility Research what's feasible, storage, adjust as needed Highway training, all operators Based on billings yearly Small bin Spring, mechanical pickup ne Speed-some, depends on eventtemp In-house After each snow event, subtotal monthly Salt shed Year round, mechanical, vacuum Wait for MnDOT and follow MnDOT, grant money Keep an eye on how much per snowfall Salt shed Mechanical, target lakes and streams Cutting back on salt usage ne, cutbacks are uniform in area Appendix I - 6