Interview with: Mr. Jack Costella Owner of the Nebulous Theorem LSR Cars Sunday Announcer s Tower 0915-1015 I requested an interview with Mr. Jack Costella after the urging of his partner and driver of the Nebulous Theorem III #988 Rick Yacoucci. Rick and I had been discussing Jack over dinner the evening before I was intrigued by the shape and construction of Nebulous Theorem III #988 and their approach to running a land speed racing car. Rick mentioned that I should do an interview with Jack and speak with him as Jack s approach to these types of vehicles is very unusual. Sunday morning of the World Finals saw an opportunity for me to interview Jack Costella after record runs were complete and my announcer s duties were finished. After a brief exchange of pleasantries we jump right into the interview. Below is Jack s story: Scott: Jack I wanted to ask you about what your approach to land speed racing is and how that affects your design and influence in your vehicles: Jack: First of all these are speed trials not races. It is not about going quick or getting to the finish line first. It s all about the most speed in the fifth mile. I build my cars by the five L s -long, low, little, light and languorous like Nicole Kidman and they need to be beautiful too. That is the way I try to build my cars. I try to get my cars to fly on the ground, trying not to touch the ground. I try to optimize the aero package by creating a small picture. Jack continued: If you read Aerodynamics books they contain all of the theories of aerodynamics and they have all of the answers. These books are very helpful in obtaining good information but only if you ask them the correct questions. I would never drive the big end of a nail into a tree, you just don t do that. This is just one justification for the small front ends on my cars.
Page 2 Continued: I think there are many well shaped streamliners now running. That streamliner Spirit of Rhett is good. The long rectangle with pointed ends is a very stable and efficient shape. I like the flat bottom and aero top of the Speed Demon/ Flatfire. Look what Proteus did with long straight lines and Kenny Hoover! My new designs are started by trying to always use my basic design philosophy as a base line. I then try to find and implement the next design. Scott Tell me a bit about your first car: My first competitive effort was a model airplane I designed and built when I was in grade school. I called it The Fleep. It was the combination of a fly and a flea. Small and fast. It won first place, it s what I still try to do. Jack continued: I started in drag racing. I was influenced by some local early drag racers. These guys would smoke the tires all the way down the track and still go really fast. I liked the small tires, and that was all that I could afford. I would put small 5-1/2 wide X 24 dia. midget slicks tires on the back and bicycle tires on the front of the four dragsters that I built. In fact I was getting good with the small tire concept, but the rules changed and I lost my advantage. I sure wasn t going to compete with a handicap start! I believe that spinning tires are not necessarily a disadvantage because it doesn t use up distance. I know that there are people that will say that I am wrong on this. I believe controllability is all important. Let the tires spin with your foot on the floor making that all important horsepower. I am constantly trying to justify my own B.S. and my way of thinking about these things. I will never say my way is the right way. Hard work is the most important factor of success. The mathematical formula for speed is absolute. It consists of frontal area, coefficient of drag, weight, rolling resistance, coefficient of traction and horsepower. It is never wrong but it has to be studied and interpreted!
Page 3 Jack digresses into another area on CG (center of gravity): Everybody is all worried about center of gravity. Hell, you can put an elephant in the middle of a car and have a 50/50 c/g cut him in half and put one end on the front and one end on the back and you would still have a 50-50 center of gravity. There are many ways to look at things. Jack makes a few comments on front end designs: I believe front end geometry used in LSR should be studied and thought of as unique. The geometry used in vehicles that turn could be dangerous in a vehicle that needs to maintain control in a straight line. The drag racers have evolved; LSR in my opinion has not. My latest designs have no caster, no camber, no kingpin inclination, no toe-in and no Ackerman. The driver should be in control not the geometry. Remember this is Jack s world. I am not telling anyone how to build their car. I do not want someone taking my ideas and building something that might not work for them. Just try to justify your ideas by finding and comparing the opposite thoughts before making a decision. Theorem is an improvable idea that works, Nebulous makes it a little cloudy at that. Jack went back to the aerodynamics area: I was fortunate to meet a renowned Polish Aerodynamicist. She had written many books on Aerodynamics. When I asked her what she thought about the shape of Nebulous Theorem #788, she asked if it was successful. I said yes, she then said it is good. She told me that in Poland they are big into gliders. She then told me something I have always remembered. She said if you were to touch a glider and leave a fingerprint, you would be run off with a club! And that s what I learned from her. She taught me that surface is (very) important. More on aero/hydro: The fastest shape on water is a piece of plywood. There is a lot of info in that simple statement. This great bit of information was told to me by an old Swedish boat builder. The basic premise of aerodynamics is to part the air and then control it. Because of the complexity of that statement, I say I will make my shapes go under the wind or make them invisible. Of course I prove this with my leaf blower and strips of toilet paper.
Page 4 We get off on another subject: The most honest answer to most questions is I don t know. Questions have to be simple, and in my opinion are more important than answers. Just keep trying and asking and you might be the only guy with the answer. Jack moves on to other thoughts: 1969 was my first Bonneville trip and I built four minibikes and set some motorcycle records which caused a new wheel/tire rule. My designs were so successful that the rules no longer allow mini bikes or small tires. The streamliner classes allow more innovation, that s what I like. I have always had to build these things within my means as well, which has influenced my designs. Now with multiple vehicles, I have quit driving. The vehicles are now in the hands of some very competent partners. I can t say enough about Rick Yacoucci. His exploits with Nebulous Theorem #988 are absolutely astounding. Now with partner and (Master flathead) engine builder Jimmy Stevens, Nebulous Theorem #788 will accomplish even more! My rider Cliff Gullett set nine motorcycle streamliner records in 2 years and that success would have continued in Nebulous Theorem #7070 (if not for tragic events). Glen Dennee with his extensive racing background and his daughter Michele Brading (their newest driver) had a great first year in 2009. Tim Cunha, my partner with our latest car Nebulous Theorem #8080 will add to this success starting in the 2010 land speed racing season. Jack now starts to discuss safety, a subject close to his heart due to past racing experiences: Safety has been pushed to the forefront for me now. I have built these cars with my own hands and I have learned about human safety in cars. I have had to make changes in all of my cars. We have added more rigid padding into the seats and more metal around the driver to keep them contained. The belt system that works so well on sit down drivers has some limitations in lay-down cars like our streamliners. We even look at the way that we steer the cars and don t use a traditional steering wheel, we use a back and forth style steering to keep our hands better contained.
Page 5 Continued: We use extra forearm restraints. All of our cars have Hans devices. Safety is my utmost concern, and we are looking to improve our cars safety constantly. Jack continues: I think it s important to search for new ideas, and put in the effort to try them. Yes we are continuing to develop and improve my four competing Nebulous Theorem vehicles. And of course, this is all made possible by my wonderful wife and partner Keiko whose love and support through thick and thin has always been there. Our Mantra - Racing is work, Winning is fun! I thanked Jack Costella for his time and he was more than gracious with his exit. Thanking us for allowing him time to speak. He is certainly a very interesting character and a very humble man as well. This is the end of my Interview with Mr. Jack Costella. I can honestly say that Jack Costella is a pioneer in land speed trials competition. He has set many records with his cars and partners and he continues to innovate. It was a pleasure speaking with him and understanding a bit of what drives the mind of this land speed racer and innovator. Scott C. Andrews October 20, 2009 Chatsworth, CA