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1 KM Lockup Problems Caused by a Hidden O-Ring by Mike Souza members.atra.com An old problem that continues to rear its ugly head in shops across the country. Lately we ve been getting more calls about lockup problems on the early KM-series transaxles found in Mitsubishi and Chrysler vehicles (figure 1). It seems like these units have been around forever and they re still quite popular among the younger crowd. You know the ones: With the loud, annoying exhausts and stereos Figure 1 you can hear from a block away. I m not even sure it s possible for those customers to feel a converter clutch shudder; most of the time they bring their cars in because the warning light on the dash started flashing. The complaint may be a chatter, or the engine may start lugging while coming to a stop. Or maybe it ll just involve a TCC code. Whatever the complaint, the solution is old news to some; to others, it may be brand new. The way the call usually goes on the HotLine is something like this: The technician explains the problem. We listen patiently, and then ask whether he replaced the O-ring on the stator support. Then there s usually a moment of 14 GEARS October/November 2011

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3 KM Lockup Problems Caused by a Hidden O-Ring The only way to replace the O-ring is to press the stator support shaft part way out of the housing from the sealing ring side. silence, and finally the technician asks, What O-ring? It s not surprising that someone might have missed this O-ring; in fact, it s probably the most commonly overlooked part during the rebuild on early Mitsubishi-type transmissions. That s because it s located inside the pump stator support, in a groove on the shaft. You can t see it; you have to know it s there. That s why many technicians miss replacing it during a rebuild. The O-ring is extremely thin and, over time, becomes very hard and brittle, which creates a leak in the torque converter release oil circuit. This may only cause an intermittent lockup code that won t go away. Or there may be symptoms of a converter shudder, surge, or engine lugging at a stop. The only way to replace the O-ring is to press the stator support shaft part way out of the housing from the sealing ring side (figure 2). It isn t necessary to remove the entire shaft. Be careful not to damage the sealing ring side of the support while pressing the shaft out: Use a driver that fits just inside the outer diameter of the shaft (figure 3). Using a driver that s too large will damage the stator support. Make sure you support the pump side of the stator support housing while pressing the shaft out. The support isn t very thick and can easily crack. The next trick is getting the O-ring out: Very often, the seal becomes extremely brittle and will break apart from the pick or scribe (figure 4). You ll need to make sure you ve removed all the pieces before installing the new seal. Once you see the O-ring, you ll probably remember that very thin O-ring you saw in the overhaul kit, but never saw where it belonged. Suddenly it ll all become clear Use a Gauge Intermittent lockup codes can be difficult to diagnose. One thing that can Figure 2 Figure 3 make them easier is a pressure gauge. Not all vehicles will have a converter clutch pressure tap or apply and release pressure information available. Not so with Mitsubishi and Chrysler vehicles equipped with a KM-type transaxle: Figure 5 shows the pressure tap locations. 16 GEARS October/November 2011

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5 KM Lockup Problems Caused by a Hidden O-Ring Figure 4 Figure 5 If the pressure s low, you may have a leak at the O-ring on the stator support shaft. Connect your pressure gauge to the torque converter pressure tap (figure 5). Normal pressure should be about PSI with the TCC released (29-34 PSI for models). Figure 6 Figure 7 When the computer commands the TCC to apply, pressure should drop to 0-10 PSI. If this occurs, the system s working correctly; the problem is in the torque converter itself. If pressure doesn t drop when commanded, either the damper clutch control valve is stuck or the damper clutch control solenoid failed. If the pressure s low, you may have a leak at the O-ring on the stator support shaft. The O-ring doesn t appear in most parts catalogs or repair manuals; you have to know it s there. Other possible causes for torque converter-related codes could involve a worn stator shaft bushing (figure 6) or the seal on the inner pump gear (figure 7). And don t forget to check the sealing ring bore in the stator support for damage. The KM stator support O-ring is an old, familiar problem for some; for others, not so much. And if you aren t familiar with it, there s no way you re going to find it simply by looking around while the transmission s on the bench. Of course, that s why the ATRA HotLine is here: to put the experience of thousands of technicians right at your fingertips. 18 GEARS October/November 2011

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