Looks at Emma. 1 Talks to Kelly and Linda who are at the board. 1 Points finger to board. Raises question (safe?)

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1 Appendix Table 1 Transcript of Event Turn # Talk Sequence # Notes/Comments IODM TAP (Toulmin Framework) 1. Kelly: Br 2 2. Daniel: Good question Emma Looks at Kimmy 3. Kimmy: Kimmy 4. Daniel: I mean Kimmy 5. Kimmy (looking at Emma) It s all right, I m used to people calling me Emma (laughs). 6. Kimmy: Talk. What s going on in your brain? I can t hear you. Not listening. Looks at Emma 1 Talks to Kelly and Linda who are at the board M1 7. Linda: Remember Filippa? 1 Looks behind to Filippa Q3, M1 8. Amari: Wouldn t the Br pull off one hydrogen? 1 Points finger to board, raises questions (safe?) R4 Claim 9. Filippa: Umm, the Br 2 pulls of the hydrogen, 1 Points finger to board, Agrees with Amari (Supporting Amari) 10. Amari: The first hydrogen 1 Expands Filippa s statement, gives specific details R1 R3 11. Filippa: The electron moves onto that and then they form a double bond 1 R3 Claim 12. Kelly: Yeah we did it 1 Agrees with Filippa R5 (Evaluating through agreeing with the use of yeah ) 13. Linda: And then what? 1 Q2 14. Amari: And then so it pulls off the other one also and that. Isn t it also like the half? 1 Points finger to board. Raises question (safe?) T1, T3 or Q4

2 15. Filippa: Yeah then the Br also pulls off 1 Puts hands on top of head as in stretching pose, agrees with Amari R1 and R3, R5 16. Linda: Oh yeah 1 R5 17. Kelly: No it s the top reagent 1 T1 Rebuttal 18. Kimmy: The Br pulls off the hydrogen so then that becomes a 1 Interrupted R1 Claim 19. Kelly: OK and then you just... just have a Br 1 R3 or T1 20. Kimmy: Wow 1 R5 21. Kelly: Hanging around 1 Taps on board with marker R3 Continuation of turn 19, backing 22. Linda: Yeah but Br pulls this. The electrons in that bond moves to form the double bond 1 T3 or T1 Claim 23. Filippa: So now the extra Br 1 R3 24. Amari: No but the hydrogen needs to come off because of the octet 2 T1 or T3 Rebuttal 25. Kimmy: So the hydrogen comes off from the Br 2 Raises hand, open-faced towards board. Fine-tunes statement. She repeats her statement from turn 21 R1 Claim 26. Linda: Yeah they pull all the hydrogen off 2 Fines tunes statement R2 Warrant 27. Kimmy: That s what makes it positive 2 Hand raised, open faced towards the board. Fines tunes statement R3 Warrant 28. Kelly: And these electrons shift moves 2 Fines tunes statement R3 29. Amari: But the carbon on top because then now you can t have that new double bond because 2 Points finger to board T1 Claim

3 30. Linda: That s what I was thinking 2 R5 31. Amari: It has to pull off another hydrogen that s why there s two Br s 2 Points finger to board T1 and T3 (to turn 32) Warrant 32. Filippa: But but wouldn t it be 3 Points finger to board T1 Start of Rebuttal 33. Linda: Hold on 3 M1 34. Filippa: Wouldn t it be a radical type of thing because when they? 35. Amari: Yeah Br 2 is a radical right that s how I learned it. Its Br 2 over light 3 Points finger to board T1 and Q2 Rebuttal 3 Talking to Filippa R2, R4 36. Linda (softly to Kelly): This? I don t think so 3 T3 37. Kelly: So this one over here. You have one left Br 3 R2 (from turn 34) Grounds (based on concept) 38. Linda: Yes 3 R5 39. Kelly: And the electrons move 3 R3 Continuation of Grounds (based on concept) 40. Linda: Yes 3 R5 41. Kelly: Oh I get it. This Br pulls off the hydrogen 3 Taps at board R1 (from turn 11, 12, 21, 25, 29) Claim 42. Linda: Yeah the hydrogen also 3 R1 Grounds 43. Kelly: That s all 3 R5 44. Linda: Yeah 3 R5 45. Kelly: That s all and then you re left with this 3 Taps at board R5 Grounds 46. Linda: But like the Br accepting as bases 3 T1 Claim

4 47. Daniel: So are the Br s accepting as bases? 3 Reinforcing a Question (manipulation) 48. Linda: No. They can t be acting as bases 4 Slaps hands together loudly talking to Daniel Q1 T3 Rebuttal (to self) 49. Daniel: I thought bases attract protons 4 T1 Rebuttal 50. Linda: The NaOH should be the base 4 T3 New Claim 51. Kimmy: Why is the NaOH? What is that doing? 52. Daniel: I think that s a cata I think that s a catalyst 4 Talking to Linda Q2 4 T1 and T3 Claim 53. Linda: Don t the Br s add and then? 4 Talking to Filippa Q2 Claim 54. Amari: No, that s if you re using HBr 4 T3 Rebuttal 55. Filippa: But then will the NaOH take on a proton? 4 Speaks loudly 55=56 (overlap) Q2 Grounds 56. Amari: But these are two Br s 4 T3 57. Linda: That s what I thought the NaOH has to yeah take off the proton and yeah 58. Elijah: Does it take off a proton if there is like no Chlorine or something? 59. Kelly: Exactly something takes off the Hydrogen 4 R3 (to turn 55: Filippa) /Warrant 4 Q1 Claim/Warrant 4 R1 Claim (basis of the argument) 60. Kimmy: We re not in Organic Chem Under breath T1 61. Daniel: Pardon? Q2 62. Kimmy: (louder) We re not in Organic Chem R1 (Turn 66)

5 63. Daniel: Look I want you guys to reflect how much you remember 64. Amari: Well it s not Br 2 over NaOH because when I did it with Vanica [organic professor], it was NaOH by itself or Br 2 over light M3 5 Kelly taps on board R4, T3, T4 Claim, Grounds, Warrant 65. Kimmy: Yeah I remember Br 2 over light 5 Open palm; facing board R1 Warrant/ 66. Linda: Okay, if you add Br 2 over light then Br 2 gets added to the single bonds 5 Crossed arms R5 (Okay), T1 Claim 67. Amari: No it doesn t. It pulls off 5 T3 Rebuttal 68. Elijah: It goes through free radicals reaction 5 68=69 (overlap) T1 Claim 69. Amari: Yeah it s a radical reaction but it ends up pulling off 5 R3, T4 Qualifier Claim/ sequence 70. Linda: How do you pull it off? 5 70=71 (overlap) Q2 Rebuttal 71. Amari: And you get a double bond 5 T4 (to turn 75) Claim/ sequence 72. Amari: Because look 5 Gets up and walks towards the board. Takes marker from Kelly T1 Claim/ sequence 73. Elijah: Basically it turns into 5 R2 Claim/ sequence 74. Amari: It s umm Extend this side it s with the arrow thing. The light release it so you get one like this and one like that so then you end up 5 T3, R3 Warrant/ sequence 75. Linda: Right 5 R5 76. Amari: And then this pulls off one and you do the same mechanism again 5 Erases writing after being done T3 Warrant/ sequence

6 77. Linda: So then we don t need the base? 5 Q2 Claim 78. Amari: So then this would come here because there s still that umm Hydrogen Carbon bond so one goes here and these form one so then you have one HBr and then another Br radical floating around and then it s the same thing and it comes here. So then that s how you get your double bond 5 Drawing on board T3 Claim/Grounds/Warrant/Ba cking sequence 79. Kelly: I m going to agree with you 5 Looks at Amari then to Linda R5 (Linda? Or encouraging Linda to come over?) 80. Linda: No. 6 R5 Rebuttal 81. Daniel: Okay guys 6 Comes in right after Linda s No. Breaking patterns, making it safe M1 82. Linda: How come you can t? 6 Q2 83. Daniel: Nothing you re doing fine. So I m I m hearing there s two proposed mechanisms. One s a free radical and one s a base mechanism 6 T2, T4 84. Linda: Right 6 Amari sits down R5 85. Daniel: Okay. 6 R5 86. Filippa: They both 6 Safe T1 Claim 87. Kelly: They both work 6 R1 Claim 88. Filippa: They both 6 Filippa shut down R1 89. Linda: But which one is the correct one in this case? 6 Talking to Daniel Q4

7 90. Amari: Anyone because you still get your product. I mean you still get what you re looking for. 91. Linda: I mean wherever this reaction is going on it can t be anyone 92. Daniel: It depends what you put in there. You put Br and NaOH because we had no other option than Br and NaOH. Cuz that s what you told me to put in there. 6 Talking to Linda T3 Claim 6 T1 Claim 6 Talking to Linda T3, T4 Warrant ( Amari) 93. Linda: Yeah 6 R5 94. Daniel: Ok so that s fine. Is there is there maybe more than one way to get an H 2 O across, I mean, a double bond? 6 Synchronized with Linda T4, Q1, M3 (okay that s fine), M4 95. Linda: Double bond 6 Synchronized with Daniel (Linda comes over) R1 96. Linda/Filippa/Amari/Kimmy: Yea yes 6 R5 97. Daniel: That s it. So we ve now had two students propose one. 6 R3